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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
(Post 11809422)
I've got a Tiagra/105 mix on my CX bike. It's pretty good stuff. Honestly, the biggest complaint I have is that the Tiagra shifters are kind of blockish. They don't fit the hands all that well, and aren't quite as comfortable as more expensive shifters.
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Originally Posted by I_Like_Bike
(Post 11809471)
Sure. Or...it could just suck.
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ITs all about the tuning. If your lbs has a good wrench, then Tiagra can shift smooth as butter. Maybe not as crisp or light as Sram or DA, but for the price, and the prices for replacement parts, Tiagra is hard to beat.
BTW, the '09 CAAD 9 came with a sora FD on my Tiagra group. I think they were all like that. |
Originally Posted by 2ndGen
(Post 11809580)
Well, that's 1 for Tiagra sucking versus...?
;) I am glad other have enjoyed theirs, but there seems to be an issue with mine. What the issue is I can't say. Would I buy it again? I hope I never have too, but its better than running. |
My 2009 CAAD9 6 came with Tiagra, and shifted as well as the 6600 Ultegra I replaced it with. Had I not gotten an excellent deal on the Ultegra (used, from a riding buddy), I'd still be on the Tiagra. And good quality nine speed stuff (chains, cassettes, etc.) is half the price of equivalent ten speed stuff. If I could find the frame I want, I'd transfer the ten speed drivetrain to the new frame and put the Tiagra back on the CAAD9, and be happy riding either.
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Originally Posted by 2ndGen
(Post 11809554)
"...then this thread is..." more deserving of your undivided attention when reading it before you post.
I never talked about "my" Tiagra shifter. Beee-cause, I never owned Tiagra shifters. www.RIF.org :lol: |
Originally Posted by I_Like_Bike
(Post 11809676)
I totally acknowledge that there could be more factors affecting a well performing group, but I have to believe that its partly because you get what you pay for.
I am glad other have enjoyed theirs, but there seems to be an issue with mine. What the issue is I can't say. That's an overwhelming + for the Tiagra's rep IMO. Would I buy it again? I hope I never have too, but its better than running. OT, but not; I bought a DeWalt compressor. It broke on me 3 times. I lost a ton of time and money on it. I paid extra because I wanted the best. Besides it sucking, the customer service was horrible. Would I say that all DeWalt compressors suck? No. I'd say that I got a lemon. But I won't dare take away from your personal experiences with Tiagra. Honestly, your's is like a 1 in a million experience. Did you do your own wrenching or did you have someone else do it for you? I was joking when I made the comment about the wrencher, but it could be true. Maybe it wasn't tuned properly. I know that in the first 100 miles or so, the cables stretch and the derailleurs/brakes/shifters need to be dialed-in. I'd say it took me about 200 miles before I got my Tiagra bike working right. But after that, it gave me hundreds of trouble free miles and was working perfectly when I sold them off to upgrade to Dura Ace. |
Originally Posted by umd
(Post 11809687)
Reread your OP and get back to me.
Which part of the original post confused you into believing that I owned Tiagra shifters "after" I clearly stated that I didn't? "Tiagra users... I've read this (or something to this effect) more than one time; "...my Tiagra group was smoother shifting than my (105, Ultegra, etc...)..." I too noticed that Tiagra set-up with a good crankset (for me) was smooth. Am I the only one that thinks that Tiagra just might be the best group for the money?" |
This is getting ridiculous. You praised the GROUP and the only reference to anything non-Tiagra was the crank. You didn't say that you HAD the shifters but you didn't say that you did NOT have it either.
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Originally Posted by rangerdavid
(Post 11809612)
ITs all about the tuning. If your lbs has a good wrench, then Tiagra can shift smooth as butter. Maybe not as crisp or light as Sram or DA, but for the price, and the prices for replacement parts, Tiagra is hard to beat.
BTW, the '09 CAAD 9 came with a sora FD on my Tiagra group. I think they were all like that. I got lucky. I got a Tiagra FD on my 9-7. Total gift. I did a double-take when I pulled the frame out of the box. :) |
:popcorn
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Originally Posted by umd
(Post 11809753)
This is getting ridiculous.
You praised the GROUP and the only reference to anything non-Tiagra was the crank. You didn't say that you HAD the shifters but you didn't say that you did NOT have it either. What do you think? Did I or didn't I? :crash: Put the mouse down and walk away for a while. You'll feel better in 15 minutes or so. http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/7/7_5_144.gif (and now, back to the thread...) |
I'm just saying, your smooth shifting is because of your Ultegra crank, not anything Tiagra on your bike.
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Originally Posted by Velo Gator
(Post 11809758)
:popcorn
(But not for nuthin', popcorn is a good idea right now! BRB!) |
I feel my IQ draining out of the drip hole.
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Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy
(Post 11809808)
I feel my IQ draining out of the drip hole.
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I had to google that. Didn't help.
I am still confused, but happy that it did not take me to any poop pics. |
I didn't enjoy my Tiagra experience. (mostly Tiagra group with an FSA crank) They certainly needed some fine tuning, but my biggest issue was with the shifter throw (not the reach, the throw) being too much for my hands which no amount of tweaking was going to fix.
I have Force now, and am super happy with it. |
Originally Posted by umd
(Post 11809803)
I'm just saying, your smooth shifting is because of your Ultegra crank, not anything Tiagra on your bike.
:) But I noticed a HUGE jump from Sora to Tiagra front shifting (with the same crankset). Not "as much" more from Tiagra to Dura-Ace 7800 with the same crankset. And, the Tiagra Rear Derailleur was smoother than anything else I rode including 105--->Ultegra--->Ultegra SL--->SRAM RED (except my DA7800 RD which is awesome). See, I've read that some riders who've had experience with all of those groups found their Tiagra groups to ride smoother than their "better" groups. Some have found them to be smoother than their Ultegra 6600 groups. When you see something more than once from unrelated sources, (for me) it makes one have to wonder, is there something special about this group? Some have even said that because they are heavier and less delicate, that a group like Tiagra lasts longer or can take a beating more. I think that Tiagra is a sleeper group. Not just for the money. But period. By the time my Sora/Tiagra group was dialed in, it still wasn't adequate for how I ride. That's why I upgraded, but for just recreational riding, it was fine. :) Let's smokem' peace pipe! http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...f?t=1290132325 |
Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy
(Post 11809808)
I feel my IQ draining out of the drip hole.
:D |
Originally Posted by truckstop
(Post 11809856)
I didn't enjoy my Tiagra experience. (mostly Tiagra group with an FSA crank) They certainly needed some fine tuning, but my biggest issue was with the shifter throw (not the reach, the throw) being too much for my hands which no amount of tweaking was going to fix.
I have Force now, and am super happy with it. ;) |
I actually had Tiagra on my Allez, and 105 on my TCR. Both 9 speed IIRC. I didn't really notice any difference in shifting between them, except that the 105 was a compact double and the Tiagra was a triple. I only used the Tiagra for a few thousand miles, so I can't attest to it's long-term durability. The 105 shifters on the other hand, were pieces of crap. I killed the rear lever, replaced it, then killed the new one. F-that, I switched to SRAM and never looked back.
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Originally Posted by umd
(Post 11809896)
I actually had Tiagra on my Allez, and 105 on my TCR. Both 9 speed IIRC. I didn't really notice any difference in shifting between them, except that the 105 was a compact double and the Tiagra was a triple. I only used the Tiagra for a few thousand miles, so I can't attest to it's long-term durability. The 105 shifters on the other hand, were pieces of crap. I killed the rear lever, replaced it, then killed the new one. F-that, I switched to SRAM and never looked back.
Again, like I posted in my "Double Tap:* thread weeks ago, when so many people are so passionate about something, it warrants investigation. I'm pretty sure I'll own a SRAM bike one day. * http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...962-Double-Tap... |
I remember that thread. It was while I was banned and there was so much fail in it, I just wanted to throw something at the screen since I couldn't post. Not saying it was you, I don't remember who said what. I just had to stop looking at it. When I got back I didn't want to bump it.
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