bikerjp

I've seen these on BT a few times now but can't find out much about them. They "sound" like a good set of wheels. I'm keeping my eyes open for a good wheetset to upgrade the stock wheels I have. I don't want to spend much more than $500-600 and am looking for something a bit lighter than the rs10s I have with good hubs and bladed spokes or other features to cut wind resistance. I'm not looking for racing wheels and I'm not sure if tubeless would be a good thing or not.

Anyone have any experience with these? Is anyone running tubeless for daily training/fitness rides? Thanks.

Quel

I'd look elsewhere. Tubeless clinchers means you only have a very limited choice in tires. The format seems like it'd be okay if it were widespread, but it isn't.

MegaTom

But you can still run regular clinchers with tubes in those Dura-Ace wheels if you decide that tubeless isn't for you. They are very nice whichever way you go....

MajorMantra

Indeed, they are a lot more future-proof than most wheels, since they could be great if tyre manufacturers ever get their act together with road tubeless.

bikerjp

I thought maybe you could use a tube, like in an emergency, even if it's tubeless, but wasn't sure if you could/should do it long term. Good to know.

So are these a fairly durable everyday wheel or more of a race day only wheel. My roads around here are not overly smooth and I'm 195 lbs now, hoping to get to around 185, but could be too heavy for some wheels. Are they really an $1100 wheelset or is that an inflated price to make the BT price look good? Thanks again.

Menel

Google would answer your price question.

nacler22

Funny thing, I just wrote in a thread about 7850 SL (TU) earlier today. (carbon for everyday...) In short, they are an awesome wheelset. I use them for cyclocross and love the tubeless capacity. I run 35-40 psi with no "burping" and no worry about pinch-flats. You can run them tubed or tubeless, if you go tubeless you should carry a tube in case you cut the casing. That way you can limp home (may have to boot the tire if it's a big enough gash). Like I said in earlier thread, these wheels roll as nice as anything I've used. I highly recommend them and you will like (should) the way tubeless tires feel and roll.

midgetmaestro 

Instead of replying with a smartass comment like this, you could just be nice and answer the guy's question.

Yes, they are an $1100 wheelset.

nacler22

Oh yah, I got mine from my LBS for $600 w/ultegra cassette (demos). If you look around you should be able to get them for much less that $1100.
Good luck

bikerjp

Thanks. I did Google and saw a number of prices. While the list price is $1100 I don't think many people pay that. So it's hard to know if it's an $1100 wheelset and thus considerably better than say a $500 wheelset or if they are more of a $600-$700 wheelset and thus similar to say Easton EA70s or 90s (not sure what those are going for atm but in that range I think). So much of the bike parts industry seems way overpriced. It's hard to know what's a fair price and what's a good deal.

MajorMantra

I think you may be overthinking this. They are what they are and they cost what they cost. Personally I wouldn't spend the extra money to get tubeless compatible wheels as the technology really hasn't come of age for general road use and tyre choices are just too limited. For less money (and about the same weight as the 7850SLs) you could have the (Ultegra) WH-RS80s which have the same carbon laminate rim as the DA 7850 CLs that everyone seems to love.

bikerjp

Thanks for the tip. Those look like nice wheels - though a bit more than I'd like to spend. Guess I'll watch for a good deal.

nacler22

Last thought-comment and I'll stop. A set of wh7850 SL tubeless sold on ebay 11/22 for $575 new in box. I have Bontrager XXX, Reynolds Attacks, WH 7850 C24, Mavic Ksyrium, some others. The 7850 SLs (TL) are the best all around wheels I've owned.

eric01

How does the 7850 SLs compare to the 7850 C24? I assume you're referring to the carbon laminate clinchers... been considering either one myself

ndchao

I picked up a set from BT. Will let you guys know how they ride. $569 After Shipping.

jb636

GREAT Wheels. Have used these for the last 8 months with no issues at all and I weigh around 175. Price offered on BT is a good price for these wheels. I use them with Tubes. As the earlier post shared, you can use these either with or without tubes. Best of both worlds...

nacler22

The carbon hoops spin-up a little faster and the ride is maybe a tad more "plush". The SLs are a little stiffer, plus, I'm not afraid to bash them a little, hence their my "go to" cross wheels. Any-how, both are the smoothest rolling wheels I own.

Jed19

I am kinda debating whether to ebay my Ksyrium ES and SSC SL to fund a purchase of the Dura-Ace WH-7850 C24 CL carbon hoops. I have heard and read so many great things about them.

nacler22

Do it, you will be glad you did. (I can't knock the SSC SLs, never rode on them)
Good luck

nacler22

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M_S

Tubeless road seems cool and all but man, the non tubeless ultegra level wheels for example weigh a lot less than the tubeless versions of same (they don't have the carbon rim), though I suppose that is offset if you are running tubeless tires and minimal sealant.

That said, weight isn't everything, and shimano makes some pretty good wheelsets if a hundred or two grams isn't your priority. I have the UST (tubeless) XT wheels on my mountain bike and they've been great. Even the low end r500s that came on my cross bike were reasonably durable.