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Building up a bike--couple of questions

Old 11-29-10, 03:28 PM
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Building up a bike--couple of questions

Hi all,

I've gotten an opportunity to purchase a Cyfac frame at a great price from a friend. I'm on a serious budget and I do no wrenching, so I'm wondering what it would really take to build the frame up, in terms of cost, assuming I'd be going the Chorus/Rival route for components. If I bought a Chorus Gruppo and a decent set of wheels, would that be the extent of my parts costs? I've already got pedals, but what else does NOT come with a components group?

Just trying to set up a budget to see what to expect. I'm in a bit of a money crunch, but nothing like feeding my cycling addiction...

Thanks all!
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fork (if it is not part of the frame)
headset (if it is not part of the frame)
headset spacers
handlebar
stem
saddle
seatpost
seatpost collar (if it is not part of the frame)
fork cutting (need to be done at lbs)
fork crown race installation (need to be done at lbs)
handlebar tape
pedals
tyres x2
inner tubes x2

tube/tub of grease
chain lube
carbon assembley paste (maybe if carbon steerer tube)
anti-sieze (if different metals touching)
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Originally Posted by bikegummo
Hi all,

I've gotten an opportunity to purchase a Cyfac frame at a great price from a friend. I'm on a serious budget and I do no wrenching, so I'm wondering what it would really take to build the frame up, in terms of cost, assuming I'd be going the Chorus/Rival route for components. If I bought a Chorus Gruppo and a decent set of wheels, would that be the extent of my parts costs? I've already got pedals, but what else does NOT come with a components group?

Just trying to set up a budget to see what to expect. I'm in a bit of a money crunch, but nothing like feeding my cycling addiction...

Thanks all!
Is this some sort of joke?
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If you replace "Cyfac frame" with "house" or "stock" or "tulip bulb" or... and "friend" with "broker", it will all start to make sense.
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If you're just getting just the frame then you'll need:

Fork
headset
gruppo (BB, crankset, FD, RD, shifters, brake calipers, cassette)
wheels
handlebars
saddle


Labor to build the bike varies because in most of the local shops in my area it is typically over $100. I'm in the process of completing my first build and have enjoyed it, but unless you have friends with the tools you need that will be another expense though you can use them in the future so it's worth it.
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Originally Posted by kimconyc
Is this some sort of joke?
well he can get a Cyfac and put Tiagra on it.....

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Yeah, well, the frame is very reasonable, and as I mentioned, I'm not rich. Figured I'd do my best for now, and eventually upgrade. I realize it's a bit like living in a trailer and driving a Ferrari, but hell, it's better than my current ride.
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Your comparison is apples and oranges. Campy offers lower end groups that are 10 speed (not 11 speed like Chorus) that would compare to Rival. Centaur or Veloce would be the ones to look at on a budget. Here's a link to a website with decent prices. Modern groups are only 8 pieces - the shifters, FD, RD, chain, cassette, crank, BB and brakes. You still need a seatpost, saddle, stem, bars, wheels, tires, tubes and bar tape.

https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/groups..._GS&type=RIBMO
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You can get Rival for $600 something on shinybikes.com
1500 gram wheelset for $400 from bikewheelwharehouse (is that right?)

You can get it to 16lb using that, choose a not-so-heavy cockpit and gp4000 tires (200g each) and latex tubes (75gram each)
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Originally Posted by LostitoaBianchi
Yeah, I'm familiar with a bike, so my question wasn't "Where's the adjusting barrel?" Or "What's a rear dropout?" I was asking what I'd need aside from wheels, pedals, and a gruppo. Never built one up, and figured I'd ask since I've only ever bought bikes from a lbs.
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Originally Posted by DaveSSS
Your comparison is apples and oranges. Campy offers lower end groups that are 10 speed (not 11 speed like Chorus) that would compare to Rival. Centaur or Veloce would be the ones to look at on a budget. Here's a link to a website with decent prices. Modern groups are only 8 pieces - the shifters, FD, RD, chain, cassette, crank, BB and brakes. You still need a seatpost, saddle, stem, bars, wheels, tires, tubes and bar tape.

https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/groups..._GS&type=RIBMO
Appreciate it, DaveSSS. Also kabex, I'll check out the links. Thanks!
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my list comes from my build. that was my shopping list after i got the frameset except those things that were included (fork, headset, seat collar). Everything else on that list I bought.
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Originally Posted by bikegummo
Yeah, well, the frame is very reasonable, and as I mentioned, I'm not rich. Figured I'd do my best for now, and eventually upgrade. I realize it's a bit like living in a trailer and driving a Ferrari, but hell, it's better than my current ride.
I was just amused because you seem really quick to draw when you mention you might not have any bullets.

But to answer your question, if you really skimp on tools, like making your own headset press, borrowing, etc. it will cost maybe $100 in tools and quite some time (maybe 5-10 hours reading, watching videos) to learn how to build up your bike. This has to be added to the time scouring and finding parts for the frame.
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Fair enough kimconyc--though you might be having a go at me for going Chorus/Rival and not Super Record/Red.
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One other thing you may want to try is to find a new or used donor bike within your budget with same measurements in critical areas that has moderate to good equipment but not so much of a good frame and transfer the stuff to your new frame and sell the donor frame later on.
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I'd seriously look at building it yourself and getting the shop to do the larger things like installing the headset and possibly installing the crank if you're worried about stripping it. Otherwise, just get a book and spend some time on it.
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Neuvation wheels if you are on a tight budget. Don't forget the cables and cable guides for the bottom bracket, just in case your frame did not come with any.
If you are to feed your cycling addiction, learn to wrench. There is nothing like assembling and tuning your own bike. Have fun!
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