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ZenRen 12-06-10 04:44 PM

CO2 Cartridges
 
I have a Genuine Innovations pump, that uses CO2 canisters (non threaded). It's the kind where you put the canister into the handle, then screw the head onto it, which punctures the tube, and theres a trigger to start the air.

Anyway...the canister looks exactly like a CO2 canister used for airguns/rifles, can I use these canisters? I think the canister for the bike inflator is 16g...i dont know what size the airgun/rifle canisters are. If I can't use these, are there cheaper alternatives I can use?

I think the bike shops mark up those CO2 canisters like 400%

Carbon Unit 12-06-10 04:48 PM

This guy has the best prices I found on CO2's. He is also on Ebay but it cost a little more there.

http://www.redrockminnesota.com/serv...ges/Categories

Accordion 12-06-10 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by Carbon Unit (Post 11895067)
This guy has the best prices I found on CO2's. He is also on Ebay but it cost a little more there.

http://www.redrockminnesota.com/serv...ges/Categories

Have nothing but good things to say about the link here. I think I spent like $20 for 20 threaded cartridges delivered. Only used two so far with zero issues. I think I had them in a couple days with the shipping.

ZenRen 12-06-10 05:08 PM

ill order bulk from this guy, but i used my last cartridge this morning, so I need something immediate as well. Will those Walmart carts work for now?

kayakdiver 12-06-10 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by ZenRen (Post 11895163)
ill order bulk from this guy, but i used my last cartridge this morning, so I need something immediate as well. Will those Walmart carts work for now?

yes

Bobsled 12-06-10 05:30 PM

I get mine from Walmart. Work like a charm.

tagaproject6 12-06-10 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by ZenRen (Post 11895050)
I have a Genuine Innovations pump, that uses CO2 canisters (non threaded). It's the kind where you put the canister into the handle, then screw the head onto it, which punctures the tube, and theres a trigger to start the air.

Anyway...the canister looks exactly like a CO2 canister used for airguns/rifles, can I use these canisters? I think the canister for the bike inflator is 16g...i dont know what size the airgun/rifle canisters are. If I can't use these, are there cheaper alternatives I can use?

I think the bike shops mark up those CO2 canisters like 400%

That's what I use.

StanSeven 12-06-10 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by ZenRen (Post 11895050)
I have a Genuine Innovations pump, that uses CO2 canisters (non threaded). It's the kind where you put the canister into the handle, then screw the head onto it, which punctures the tube, and theres a trigger to start the air.

Anyway...the canister looks exactly like a CO2 canister used for airguns/rifles, can I use these canisters? I think the canister for the bike inflator is 16g...i dont know what size the airgun/rifle canisters are. If I can't use these, are there cheaper alternatives I can use?

I think the bike shops mark up those CO2 canisters like 400%

Most airgun pistols are 12g and rifle are both. However these are unthreaded. I believe your Innovation also takes the 16g threaded as well as 12g unthreaded. The 16s usually work better for most road tires.

Paul Y. 12-06-10 05:37 PM

Are the Walmart cartridges threaded?

ZenRen 12-06-10 05:50 PM

They aren't but my pump uses unthreaded so it's cool

MegaTom 12-06-10 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by StanSeven (Post 11895250)
Most airgun pistols are 12g and rifle are both. However these are unthreaded. I believe your Innovation also takes the 16g threaded as well as 12g unthreaded. The 16s usually work better for most road tires.

My GI inflator, which sounds like the same thing that the OP has, won't take threaded canisters.

hammond9705 12-06-10 06:35 PM

Buy the 12g unthreaded at walmart. Plenty of pressure to get you home and they are cheap

GP 12-06-10 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by ZenRen (Post 11895050)
I think the bike shops mark up those CO2 canisters like 400%

I buy them one at a time at the bike shop for about $2.50/each. That means the shop buys them for 50 cents each. Even the guy that charges $94 for 100 is overcharging people.

kayakdiver 12-06-10 06:49 PM

From time to time biketiresdirect will throw them on the daily deal. I get a years worth for $10.

ptle 12-06-10 06:52 PM

I think there are some CO2 inflators that also take 12g. However, 12g might not be enough to get even air in your tire to prevent a pinch flat... especially in the winter.

I bought some threaded 16g on eBay. I think I got 4 for under $10 shipped, which was the best deal I could find anywhere.

kayakdiver 12-06-10 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by ptle (Post 11895652)
I think there are some CO2 inflators that also take 12g. However, 12g might not be enough to get even air in your tire to prevent a pinch flat... especially in the winter.



I bought some threaded 16g on eBay. I think I got 4 for under $10 shipped, which was the best deal I could find anywhere.

You need to be more patient and look harder ;)

midgetmaestro 12-06-10 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by Carbon Unit (Post 11895067)
This guy has the best prices I found on CO2's. He is also on Ebay but it cost a little more there.

http://www.redrockminnesota.com/serv...ges/Categories


Originally Posted by Accordion (Post 11895155)
Have nothing but good things to say about the link here. I think I spent like $20 for 20 threaded cartridges delivered. Only used two so far with zero issues. I think I had them in a couple days with the shipping.

Add me to the list. Quality carts with no qc issues at an unbeatable price for threaded.

gbs 12-06-10 07:28 PM

Sweet, bookmarking this place for future reference.

Phil85207 12-06-10 07:32 PM

Im not going to get anymore flats so I don't need any stinking co2 sutff. -:0

valygrl 12-06-10 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by midgetmaestro (Post 11895819)
Add me to the list. Quality carts with no qc issues at an unbeatable price for threaded.

+, another satisfied customer and thanks for the recommendation Carbon Unit.

adclark 12-06-10 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by hammond9705 (Post 11895570)
Buy the 12g unthreaded at walmart. Plenty of pressure to get you home and they are cheap

+1 If you are really worried about not having enough pressure, throw in a couple.

BayAreaUser 12-06-10 09:11 PM

Thanks for the link!!
I recently got my GF a seat-bag as a gift so she can carry her own spare tubes and tools (it gets annoying having to lug around 4 spare tubes on my tiny little bag). I'm getting 20 units =) that way she'll be able to carry a couple of cartridges on her own. Interesting how i just spent about the same amount of $$ to get 4 units at the local performance store.. grr
If he would only sell the little microflate Nano Tire/Tube Inflator thingie... =(
grrrr. I'm gonna hate to pay $10s+ for two co2 cartridges just so i can get one of those little threaded pumps.

chasmm 12-06-10 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by Carbon Unit (Post 11895067)
This guy has the best prices I found on CO2's. He is also on Ebay but it cost a little more there.

http://www.redrockminnesota.com/serv...ges/Categories


Originally Posted by Accordion (Post 11895155)
Have nothing but good things to say about the link here. I think I spent like $20 for 20 threaded cartridges delivered. Only used two so far with zero issues. I think I had them in a couple days with the shipping.


Originally Posted by midgetmaestro (Post 11895819)
Add me to the list. Quality carts with no qc issues at an unbeatable price for threaded.

Another very satisfied Red Rock customer. As others said, be sure to buy them from their website rather than their Ebay store. You'll save a couple of bucks on the price plus shipping.

ZenRen 12-06-10 11:06 PM

okay i bought a 5 pack just to try them out, and turns out the pump I have takes 12g, which is the exact sise of the co2 canisters at walmart. SWEET!

At that price 3.50 for 5, it doesnt matter if one canister wont fill the whole tire, I can carry multiples...so no biggie..awesome deal...even cheaper if i buy the 15 box. So I'll just make sure I have 3 on me just in case.

Carbon Unit 12-06-10 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by ZenRen (Post 11896739)
okay i bought a 5 pack just to try them out, and turns out the pump I have takes 12g, which is the exact sise of the co2 canisters at walmart. SWEET!

At that price 3.50 for 5, it doesnt matter if one canister wont fill the whole tire, I can carry multiples...so no biggie..awesome deal...even cheaper if i buy the 15 box. So I'll just make sure I have 3 on me just in case.


From what I have heard, a 12g cartridge should get you to about 80 psi. Not ideal but enough to get you home. A 16g should get you to 120 psi. I carry three with me just in case I get more than one flat which has never happened.


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