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Why is it that the vast majority of fixies started life as road bike?

Old 12-19-10, 02:10 PM
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Old 12-19-10, 02:20 PM
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It would be easy enough to convert any bike
I don't think there are that many pre-built 26inch or 24inch track wheels available. The geo of a road bike is pretty close to a trackie, and quite frankly, it's more aesthetically pleasing to see a road frame with clean lines, than a converted mtb/bmx/'cumbent bike. What about hub widths? Old steel road frames have a closer width on the dropouts than an aluminum mtb frame, no?
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whatever, at least Nixon was onto something
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Originally Posted by banerjek View Post
You actually bought the bike you wanted -- where's the sense in that? At the very least, you should throw away the brakes.

To add insult to injury, you haven't pitched the CPSC mandated reflectors or valve stem caps...


Yes, I'm a failure at being a hipster!

(good!)

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Old 12-19-10, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sleepy View Post
I don't think there are that many pre-built 26inch or 24inch track wheels available. The geo of a road bike is pretty close to a trackie, and quite frankly, it's more aesthetically pleasing to see a road frame with clean lines, than a converted mtb/bmx/'cumbent bike. What about hub widths? Old steel road frames have a closer width on the dropouts than an aluminum mtb frame, no?
For clean esthetically pleasing lines, a highracer or lowracer is hard to beat as the frame is essentially a simple line or a curve and the idler pulley could be shifted to achieve the result one normally needs horizontal dropouts for. For even more improved aesthetics, a color scheme that wasn't chosen by a circus clown on acid could be used.

SS dominates BMX and SS MTB is not that rare so these are not so nuts.
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Old 12-19-10, 03:46 PM
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You forget that a lot of these circus clown colors seem remarkably similar to the neon color schemes on mtb. back in their heyday. Fashion is a peculiar thing.

And kids find an old Schwinn Voyager easier to find and more accessible for converting than some gnarly looking recumbent in the back of someone's bike shop.

As for the MTB Conversion, I've seen those occur as well.
In any case, that's the way it is, and unless you've uncovered a trove of mtb fixie hubs and Recumbent Fixie Frames, that's the way it's going to be.
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Fixed gear bikes are just cool. They're "rebellious."

My first bike was a steel roadie that I'd bought to commute to school. I dumped it going around a bike circle and broke the rear DR. The parts and labor I needed were prohibitively expensive, so, for $35 I bought a rear track wheel and had a blast and a half of fun.

A lot of these conversion fixed gears are born out of equal measures of economic necessity and the cool factor of being able to whip-skid. Also, FG bikes have a much more accessible community, especially for my generation. Road riders are rather intimidating to those on the outside: grown men on carbon bikes with glistening well shaven legs. Hipsters? Not so scary, 20-something kids on cheap bikes drinking cheaper beer. FG is like diet-cyclismo.

I love the fixed gear/hipster movement, the more people we can bring into this two wheeled fraternity the better.
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Old 12-19-10, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by kvangundy View Post
Fixed gear bikes are just cool. They're "rebellious."

My first bike was a steel roadie that I'd bought to commute to school. I dumped it going around a bike circle and broke the rear DR. The parts and labor I needed were prohibitively expensive, so, for $35 I bought a rear track wheel and had a blast and a half of fun.

A lot of these conversion fixed gears are born out of equal measures of economic necessity and the cool factor of being able to whip-skid. Also, FG bikes have a much more accessible community, especially for my generation. Road riders are rather intimidating to those on the outside: grown men on carbon bikes with glistening well shaven legs. Hipsters? Not so scary, 20-something kids on cheap bikes drinking cheaper beer. FG is like diet-cyclismo.

I love the fixed gear/hipster movement, the more people we can bring into this two wheeled fraternity the better.
Get the hell out of bikeforumrs.........and take your logic with you!
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Old 12-19-10, 04:08 PM
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I got burnt out by the fashionistas, the "tricking", the transformation of Alleycats being a way of messengers playing in traffic to the Rejuvenile's version of Fast n Furious.

Venom aside, those were the same reasons that got me in. It was accessible, it was easy, and most importantly, it was a lot of fun. Yeah, pulling the whip skid is cool.
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Originally Posted by sleepy View Post
I got burnt out by the fashionistas, the "tricking", the transformation of Alleycats being a way of messengers playing in traffic to the Rejuvenile's version of Fast n Furious.

Venom aside, those were the same reasons that got me in. It was accessible, it was easy, and most importantly, it was a lot of fun. Yeah, pulling the whip skid is cool.
I've gone a similar route, fixed gears were my gateway drug into full blown roadrace-heroine...I still like my tight jeans, though.
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Old 12-19-10, 04:18 PM
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Well, tight jeans are much more preferable than baggy ones on the bike. Seen too many homies on their whips with some exposed boxers. They should take a page from their Hipster brethren and pick up some girly denim.
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Old 12-19-10, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by San Rensho View Post
At least the hipsters are keeping old steel road bikes alive, even if they do hack them up by removing braze-ons and der hangers. The problem is that the majority of modern road bike riders have utter disdain for steel and if it were left to them, steel bikes would be melted down to make bottlecaps for their expensive micro-brew beers.
Bah! The real problem is hipsters are hacking up fully functional road bikes, with complete groupsets, to make fixies. Since old Schwinn roadies are hip now, it's also driving the prices up to their original retail value and beyond. $100 (or less) department store bikes selling for $250 on Craigslist. Maybe $120-140 on the low end. It's ridiculous. Consider the original Schwinn Varsity. Schwinn made zillions of those things. They're becoming scarce now because most (in my area) have been converted to fixie.
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Old 12-19-10, 04:55 PM
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I've been guilty of that. I hacked off the brake guides on an old Vulcan. Granted, someone had already brazed on track dropouts, but I certainly regret it, as it made a better singlespeed than fixed. Aside from me, maybe one out of ten-fifteen conversions I see have that happened to them.
In any case, how many of those "precious" Voyagers were lying in the back of the local thriftstore gathering dust before some kid got inspired to pick it up and convert it?

Poor, poor steel purist. Steel has been dropped in favor of carbon, the kids picking up the vintage steel are either retrofitting them with STI's, or worse yet, having their derailleur hangers lopped off for a "cleaner" look.
Except... Regular Track Frames have become so cheap and readily available, that the last one is a very rare occurrence.
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Old 12-19-10, 05:15 PM
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My fixed gear is a converted road bike for many reasons.

-It was given to me for performing a tune-up on the owners other bike, so basically for FREE
-It was missing the original wheels and rear derailleur.
-It has many chips and rust spots from 30 years of riding in Germany, Italy, New Jersey, Florida, and Utah.
-It fits.
-I have a road bike.
-It can be converted back in a couple hours.
-It is incredibly fun and satisfying to ride with one gear and without coasting.
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Originally Posted by sleepy View Post
Steel has been dropped in favor of carbon
Get with the times -- steel is all the rage with middle aged guys.

They just don't make young people like they used to. Back in the day, no self respecting 20 something would even talk to old farts, let alone enjoy the same music or think the same thing was cool.

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Fashion is a peculiar thing.
Contemporary fashion is always idiotic. Unless you wait about 30 years. Then it becomes a sign of individuality and sophistication...
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You're missing the driving factor for many hipsters--to always be different
By being just like all the other hipsters.
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Originally Posted by kvangundy View Post
Fixed gear bikes are just cool. They're "rebellious."
How is following a trend and sipping starbucks rebellious?
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How is following a trend and sipping starbucks rebellious?
In all fairness, he put the term in quotation marks. Presumably, he meant in a cooperative sort of way.

Besides, anyone who is rebellious in a way that's too out of whack with every major current out there just gets labeled as a PITA. That's never cool.
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Maybe it's just the 'golden age' effect, but rebelliousness used to mean actual rebelliousness. Not fashion trends.

I live on a college campus. I see more hipsters than roadies. Only outnumbered by commuters. They're not rebelling against anything, they're just worried about looking good.
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I've gone a similar route, fixed gears were my gateway drug into full blown roadrace-heroine...I still like my tight jeans, though.
Are you saying you're a girl or that you're and addict?
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Originally Posted by Nerull View Post
Maybe it's just the 'golden age' effect, but rebelliousness used to mean actual rebelliousness. Not fashion trends.
It's the golden age effect -- think about hippies, beatniks, and where they trace their roots. There's always a proper way to rebel...
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It's the golden age effect -- think about hippies, beatniks, and where they trace their roots. There's always a proper way to rebel...
I see where you're going, but taken by itself this is such an ironic concept!
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Originally Posted by Nerull View Post
Maybe it's just the 'golden age' effect, but rebelliousness used to mean actual rebelliousness. Not fashion trends.

I live on a college campus. I see more hipsters than roadies. Only outnumbered by commuters. They're not rebelling against anything, they're just worried about looking good.
Eh, that's how it goes, isn't it? Six years ago, there were maybe two-three fixies on the street, now, it's everywhere. Some do it as fashion, other are genuinely into it. I've met a fair number of folks who would be seen as "hipsters" on fixies, who have moved on to road or 'cross bikes.

And anyway, it's a bike. Anyone can hop on it. It doesn't have to mean anything.
.... I guess the Roadies are the true rebels then. Ooooh!
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[QUOTE=banerjek;11954944]It would be easy enough to convert any bike

Not to fixed, you need something to tension the chain either horizontal drops or an ebb.


single speed is a different story because you can use a chain tensioning device or an old derailleur. I think you were trolling though and do not really want an answer
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if it wasnt for a fixed gear/trackie bike my coworkers got me into i would be doing something not productive and weigh +20lbs. since i got my fixed gear i got into roadies and mtbs but i still get a thrill out of my brakeless fixed bike out of all my bikes
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