Trickle Down Vaporware
12-24-10, 01:20 AM
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Trickle Down Vaporware
Di2 trickles down.
More Vaporware from Shimano. They are the Masters of Vaporware of course. 'Coming in 2012'. Aholes that they are. We should all live so long.
Don't hold your bike weenie breath.
More Vaporware from Shimano. They are the Masters of Vaporware of course. 'Coming in 2012'. Aholes that they are. We should all live so long.
Don't hold your bike weenie breath.
12-24-10, 03:42 AM
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So what's your complaint ? You don't want to wait that long ? They could do it now since they already have Di2 up and running, but are holding off for some reason ... probably to build anticipation and attract potential buyers away from buying something else.
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12-24-10, 04:57 AM
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electronic shifting is insidious. it is their way of taking away the ability of home mechanics to be self sufficient and become reliant on the shop and suppliers for more and more. resist the tentacles of Big Bike.
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12-24-10, 05:25 AM
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2012 bikes are already spec'd.
Taichung bike week was a few weeks ago. If Shimano has a new group they are doing an incredible job of keeping it under raps (not counting this article from VN that only quotes a single, unnamed source).
I asked a few people after the last thread about it and no-one had heard. Of course it doesn't mean it ain't so. My guess is Shimano is floating a trail balloon here to see if they should release it. If they do the next chance will be at Taipei show in March for 2012 model year (albeit quite a bit late since assembly factories will have already received their groups - unless Shimano experiences massive delays again).
My guess. Not happening.
Taichung bike week was a few weeks ago. If Shimano has a new group they are doing an incredible job of keeping it under raps (not counting this article from VN that only quotes a single, unnamed source).
I asked a few people after the last thread about it and no-one had heard. Of course it doesn't mean it ain't so. My guess is Shimano is floating a trail balloon here to see if they should release it. If they do the next chance will be at Taipei show in March for 2012 model year (albeit quite a bit late since assembly factories will have already received their groups - unless Shimano experiences massive delays again).
My guess. Not happening.
12-24-10, 05:30 AM
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Di2 trickles down.
More Vaporware from Shimano. They are the Masters of Vaporware of course. 'Coming in 2012'. Aholes that they are. We should all live so long.
Don't hold your bike weenie breath.
More Vaporware from Shimano. They are the Masters of Vaporware of course. 'Coming in 2012'. Aholes that they are. We should all live so long.
Don't hold your bike weenie breath.
I'd want to see it before I'd get all excited.
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12-24-10, 05:31 AM
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2012 bikes are already spec'd.
Taichung bike week was a few weeks ago. If Shimano has a new group they are doing an incredible job of keeping it under raps (not counting this article from VN that only quotes a single, unnamed source).
I asked a few people after the last thread about it and no-one had heard. Of course it doesn't mean it ain't so. My guess is Shimano is floating a trail balloon here to see if they should release it. If they do the next chance will be at Taipei show in March for 2012 model year (albeit quite a bit late since assembly factories will have already received their groups - unless Shimano experiences massive delays again).
My guess. Not happening.
Taichung bike week was a few weeks ago. If Shimano has a new group they are doing an incredible job of keeping it under raps (not counting this article from VN that only quotes a single, unnamed source).
I asked a few people after the last thread about it and no-one had heard. Of course it doesn't mean it ain't so. My guess is Shimano is floating a trail balloon here to see if they should release it. If they do the next chance will be at Taipei show in March for 2012 model year (albeit quite a bit late since assembly factories will have already received their groups - unless Shimano experiences massive delays again).
My guess. Not happening.
12-24-10, 05:34 AM
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Old news. You're losing your edge Pcad.
12-24-10, 08:16 AM
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If Shimano thinks they can extract more dough from the cycling public and make more profit by having an Ultegra Di group, they'll do it. Technically, it's certainly feasible IMO. It's the oldest trick in the marketing books. Introduce new stuff at the high end to extract the most money from early adopters, then move it down to the next tier to extract the most dough from them, and so on until you've maximized what you can extract from it and it has become the norm.
What about a mtn bike Di group? And how long does SRAM want to be left out of the electric shifting market?
What about a mtn bike Di group? And how long does SRAM want to be left out of the electric shifting market?
12-24-10, 08:20 AM
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I'm waiting for the Wiki-Leaks version of the story.
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12-24-10, 08:27 AM
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"according to industry sources who requested anonymity due to the confidential nature of the information"
To me, that's not vaporware. Vaporware is when the company announces it but never manages to come out with it. When the company refuses to acknowledge the existence of a product because it isn't ready and may not ever be ready, that's just normal R&D.
To me, that's not vaporware. Vaporware is when the company announces it but never manages to come out with it. When the company refuses to acknowledge the existence of a product because it isn't ready and may not ever be ready, that's just normal R&D.
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At some point in the not-too-distant future, 'ol pcad is going to drink the Di2 Kool Aid and then we're all going to rue the day. In a major way.
That's just the way these things go. I'm frankly surprised he hasn't figured that out yet.
That's just the way these things go. I'm frankly surprised he hasn't figured that out yet.
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None of us will rue the day. He just thinks we will :-p
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12-24-10, 09:00 AM
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I'm as interested in an electronic Ultegra as I was in an electronic Dura Ace....ZZZZZ
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I'm waiting for the Sora version of Di2.
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12-24-10, 09:29 AM
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is this a pcad thread that tells us nothing of any use whatsoever? good lord. how is that possible?
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12-24-10, 10:09 AM
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For clarification: multiple industry sources confirmed, one gave details. They're all under embargo. Read the whole article, it explains why manufacturers already have tech and specs.
12-24-10, 10:30 AM
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Good work, ZC.
I saw the time on the article: re-edited at 1am on 12/24/2010. That's commitment right there.
I saw the time on the article: re-edited at 1am on 12/24/2010. That's commitment right there.