Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Free/inexpensive winter training

Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Free/inexpensive winter training

Old 01-03-11, 08:38 PM
  #1  
ballistic
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 261

Bikes: 2010 Fuji Roubaix ACR 2.0

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Free/inexpensive winter training

I'm riding a two-day, 220ish-mile tour in May. My legs are in bad shape over these cold months. I need some ideas for conditioning. The tour's website says it is not for casual cyclists, and that you should ride about 400 miles during the two months prior to the tour.

It's too cold to ride outside. I can't spend money on cold-weather cycling clothing. Funds are tight. Also I'm hesitant to prop up my bike to ride it indoors. I worry about the wear-and-tear I'll put on the mechanisms. Am I just being paranoid?

If propping up my bike is the best option, what are some good but inexpensive trainers?
ballistic is offline  
Old 01-03-11, 08:45 PM
  #2  
Homebrew01
Super Moderator
 
Homebrew01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Ffld Cnty Connecticut
Posts: 21,803

Bikes: Old Steelies I made, Old Cannondales

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1160 Post(s)
Liked 840 Times in 558 Posts
Originally Posted by ballistic
I'm riding a two-day, 220ish-mile tour in May. My legs are in bad shape over these cold months. I need some ideas for conditioning. The tour's website says it is not for casual cyclists, and that you should ride about 400 miles during the two months prior to the tour.

It's too cold to ride outside. I can't spend money on cold-weather cycling clothing. Funds are tight. Also I'm hesitant to prop up my bike to ride it indoors. I worry about the wear-and-tear I'll put on the mechanisms. Am I just being paranoid?

If propping up my bike is the best option, what are some good but inexpensive trainers?
"It's too cold to ride outside" - sometimes yes, sometimes no
"I can't spend money on cold-weather cycling clothing" - You don't need to spend big $ to be warm
"Am I just being paranoid" - yes
"good but inexpensive trainers" - I got one on sale for $89 from Performance a few years ago ... works fine
__________________
Bikes: Old steel race bikes, old Cannondale race bikes, less old Cannondale race bike, crappy old mtn bike.

FYI: https://www.bikeforums.net/forum-sugg...ad-please.html
Homebrew01 is offline  
Old 01-03-11, 08:55 PM
  #3  
ballistic
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 261

Bikes: 2010 Fuji Roubaix ACR 2.0

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
So I should prepare to spend up to $100 for one? I also have to get a new saddle. I can only last about 30 miles on the stock one.

How uncool is it to do a tour like this with platform pedals?
ballistic is offline  
Old 01-03-11, 08:55 PM
  #4  
jrobe
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,496
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 30 Times in 19 Posts
Yes, you are paranoid. Trainers won't hurt your bike in any way.

Also, don't waste money on a cheap trainer ($100 will only buy you a POS). I learned that lesson the hard way. If you don't want "legs that are in bad shape over these cold months," you need a decent trainer. Buy a Kurt Kinetic Road Machine and you will solve this problem for the rest of your life.
jrobe is online now  
Old 01-03-11, 08:58 PM
  #5  
ballistic
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 261

Bikes: 2010 Fuji Roubaix ACR 2.0

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I didn't mean the trainer would cause wear-and-tear. I meant all the riding in-place, like it's wear-and-tear it wouldn't normally receive since I'm not riding it outside.

I can't drop $300+ on the trainer when I have to get a new saddle, my bike serviced prior to the tour, and possibly clipless pedals and shoes.
ballistic is offline  
Old 01-03-11, 09:01 PM
  #6  
datlas 
Should Be More Popular
 
datlas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Posts: 41,678

Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix

Mentioned: 556 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21207 Post(s)
Liked 7,699 Times in 3,617 Posts
You don't have to spend a lot of money to do cold weather riding, just layer up.
datlas is offline  
Old 01-03-11, 09:06 PM
  #7  
ballistic
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 261

Bikes: 2010 Fuji Roubaix ACR 2.0

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
What about this guy?
https://www.amazon.com/Schwinn-1031R-...4110124&sr=1-1
ballistic is offline  
Old 01-03-11, 09:11 PM
  #8  
miyata man
Senior Member
 
miyata man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,187
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 243 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I ride all Winter nearly everyday in the following
+0 F: Thicker T-shirt (long sleeved when near 0) and a windbreaker with a winter hat and gloves. A cheap pair of nearly windproof nylon pants.
-0 F: T-shirt, breathable sweatshirt, wind breaker, winter hat and gloves. Downstairs get a thicker pair of socks and long underwear under the nylon pants.

Keep the ride short enough you don't lose extremities and remember to warm up and cool down. You want to start out being slightly chilled and keep the intensity high enough to stay warm. Ask anyone from somewhere dangerously frigid and they will agree that the cold is not measured in temperature but by the wind. The real key is being windproof and having proper ventilation. Well that and keeping water and food from freezing but its doubtful you will be leaving civilization to train for this event.
miyata man is offline  
Old 01-03-11, 09:22 PM
  #9  
mattmatt300
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 19
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
look on craigslist for a trainer. you can find a good one under 100 if you are patient
mattmatt300 is offline  
Old 01-04-11, 01:47 AM
  #10  
Machka 
In Real Life
 
Machka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Down under down under
Posts: 52,151

Bikes: Lots

Mentioned: 141 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3203 Post(s)
Liked 590 Times in 324 Posts
Originally Posted by ballistic
I didn't mean the trainer would cause wear-and-tear. I meant all the riding in-place, like it's wear-and-tear it wouldn't normally receive since I'm not riding it outside.
Why? On a trainer, the front wheel remains in place. There's no turning, no wear-and-tear on it at all. The rear wheel turns, but it turns when you ride outside too.

And as for winter clothing, go to your local thrift shop and pick up a wool sweater or two ... get merino if you can, but the heavier wool will do as well. You can probably get them for maybe $5 each. While you're at your thrift shop, have a look at jackets and see if you can find a light windbreaker ... preferably one with some ventilation in the back or under the arms. That'll take care of your upper body.

Now head to the women's section of Walmart and get a pair of workout tights ... they'll be in the workout clothing section, and usually go for somewhere between $8 and $12. While you're in Walmart go to the men's wool sock section and get some heavy duty wool socks. I recommend Kodiak. Go to the winter headband and glove section and get an inexpensive headband, a pair of mini-gloves, and a pair of thicker gloves. If Walmart stuff seems expensive, you should be able to find all of this in your local Dollar store. I haven't ever paid more than $1 for a winter headband.

Put it all together ... and for less than $40 you have winter cycling gear!
Machka is offline  
Old 01-04-11, 08:36 AM
  #11  
jamesdak 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Utah
Posts: 8,507

Bikes: Paletti,Pinarello Monviso,Duell Vienna,Giordana XL Super,Lemond Maillot Juane.& custom,PDG Paramount,Fuji Opus III,Davidson Impulse,Pashley Guv'nor,Evans,Fishlips,Y-Foil,Softride, Tetra Pro, CAAD8 Optimo,

Mentioned: 149 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2215 Post(s)
Liked 4,113 Times in 1,528 Posts
Just layer up and get out there! I spent almost 2 hours Saturday riding in -2 F. weather. No big deal and I was pretty much comfortable the whole ride.
__________________
Steel is real...and comfy.
jamesdak is online now  
Old 01-04-11, 08:41 AM
  #12  
gsteinb
out walking the earth
 
gsteinb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lake Placid, NY
Posts: 21,441
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 912 Post(s)
Liked 751 Times in 342 Posts
If I got heavy duty wool socks I'd need some new shoes to fit them.
gsteinb is offline  
Old 01-04-11, 08:43 AM
  #13  
jdon
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,243
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 343 Post(s)
Liked 15 Times in 9 Posts
Look for a cheap gym to join or use school facilities if you are a student. Most gyms have spin bikes to keep the legs in reasonable condition. Start riding again in April on your new saddle to get acustomed to it.
jdon is offline  
Old 01-04-11, 08:58 AM
  #14  
frpax
Steel is real, baby!
 
frpax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 2,534

Bikes: 1984 Pinarello, 1986 Bianchi Portofino, 1988 Bianchi Trofeo, 1989 Specialized Allez, 1989 Specialized Hard Rock, 2001 Litespeed Tuscany

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Originally Posted by mattmatt300
look on craigslist for a trainer. you can find a good one under 100 if you are patient
^ this.

Also, you say you cannot last past 30 miles on your saddle. How much past 30 have you actually done?
frpax is offline  
Old 01-04-11, 09:16 AM
  #15  
SingleSpeeDemon
Team Sohoku
 
SingleSpeeDemon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Not where I want to be.
Posts: 2,005

Bikes: BMC, Cannondale, '87 Nishiki Modulus, 3Rensho Keirin

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by jdon
Look for a cheap gym to join or use school facilities if you are a student. Most gyms have spin bikes to keep the legs in reasonable condition. Start riding again in April on your new saddle to get acustomed to it.
Start with an actual spin class; actually take several as different instructors tend to have widely varying techniques. Find one that gets your heart rate up and makes your quads burn. Focus on that intensity for 45 minutes at a time, at least three days a week. Supplement spin class with intervals. Create a music track that fits the interval intensity you are using as going solo on a spin bike sucks. You're going to need all the motivation you can find to suffer through a proper workout. If you stick to this plan, you will be in good shape for when the weather takes a turn for the better. Having been from Pittsburgh, your area's climate is the same and you'll have a mix of good rideable days coming up. Get out whenever you can too.
SingleSpeeDemon is offline  
Old 01-04-11, 09:18 AM
  #16  
StanSeven
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Delaware shore
Posts: 13,542

Bikes: Cervelo C5, Guru Photon, Waterford, Specialized CX

Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1056 Post(s)
Liked 1,893 Times in 1,298 Posts
If you mean the tours website says ride 400 miles total in the two months before the 220 two day tour, that's not enough. Just for a regular century, I would want 100 miles a week or 400 miles per month. You will be back-to-back centuries.
StanSeven is offline  
Old 01-04-11, 09:23 AM
  #17  
DXchulo
Upgrading my engine
 
DXchulo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Alamogordo
Posts: 6,218
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I hate to say it, but a trainer is the cheapest way to do it right now unless you have a really cheap gym nearby with free spinning classes. You can get everything you need to ride indoors for ~$100. If you don't have any cold riding gear, buying everything you need will cost significantly more than that. I'd say it's a better investment in the long run, but it's more expensive today.

As far as I'm concerned, I wouldn't worry about "good" trainers versus "cheap" ones. Riding a trainer is going to suck no matter which one you're riding.
DXchulo is offline  
Old 01-04-11, 09:47 AM
  #18  
SFB
Banned.
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Homebrew01
"It's too cold to ride outside" - sometimes yes, sometimes no
"I can't spend money on cold-weather cycling clothing" - You don't need to spend big $ to be warm
"Am I just being paranoid" - yes
"good but inexpensive trainers" - I got one on sale for $89 from Performance a few years ago ... works fine
This, especially about the warm part.

I went for a 30 mile ride the other day, temp before wind chill was 14 degrees. I wore:

1 pair of tights (w/ chamois, this was $60...I could have figured something else out though).
2 pairs of long-johns
1 pair of light tights to cover long-johns ($15)
Covered it all with a pair of bibs
Wool socks
Long john shirt
cycling jersey
Covered with medium (ie, not "light" not "heavy") wind breaker.
Hat
Gloves
SFB is offline  
Old 01-04-11, 03:52 PM
  #19  
shovelhd
Senior Member
 
shovelhd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Western MA
Posts: 15,669

Bikes: Yes

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I paid $100 for my KK trainer on Craigslist. You'll find something although this is a tough time of year. I bought every one of my base layers at the Salvation Army for under $4 each. Picked up a couple of jerseys for $8 each. If you can't find merino wool, polypropylene fleece is very easy to find and cheap. I bought a used PI jacket with zip-off sleeves as a windbreak for $20 here in the classifieds. My lobster gloves were expensive at $40 but I only use them under freezing. Above that I use plain old cotton work gloves or lined leather gloves, under $10 at the department store. None of this has to be expensive.

However, you're talking about an event in May, living in Ohio. There's no need to ride much in the deep cold if you think you can get 1,000 miles in before May.
shovelhd is offline  
Old 01-04-11, 04:37 PM
  #20  
jdon
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,243
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 343 Post(s)
Liked 15 Times in 9 Posts
Originally Posted by DXchulo
I hate to say it, but a trainer is the cheapest way to do it right now unless you have a really cheap gym nearby with free spinning classes. You can get everything you need to ride indoors for ~$100. If you don't have any cold riding gear, buying everything you need will cost significantly more than that. I'd say it's a better investment in the long run, but it's more expensive today.

As far as I'm concerned, I wouldn't worry about "good" trainers versus "cheap" ones. Riding a trainer is going to suck no matter which one you're riding.
I just joined a gym in NJ for 10 bucks a month. I don't live there but am there often enough to make it worthwhile. When they aren't doing spin classes, they are available for use. Use something that helps motivation with intervals. Asimple MP3 from https://www.cardiocoach.com/ is my preference and they are cheap to download. I use 4 and 5.
jdon is offline  
Old 01-04-11, 06:40 PM
  #21  
miyata man
Senior Member
 
miyata man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,187
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 243 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Alright, for no more than $25 you should be able to find someone with a crappy exercycle, moving cardio arms or not, to get you through the cold months. Sit your increasingly warming butt on it through Entertainment tonight every night with the wife. With zero resistance dialed in 30 minutes of casual pedaling will do more than the nothing you are obviously fighting off. Trash day the first actually warm week clears the piece of crap out of your life.
miyata man is offline  
Old 01-04-11, 08:15 PM
  #22  
Machka 
In Real Life
 
Machka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Down under down under
Posts: 52,151

Bikes: Lots

Mentioned: 141 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3203 Post(s)
Liked 590 Times in 324 Posts
You could pick up the Ascent ($130) or Nashbar ($150) fluid trainers and you'd be set. I have an older version of the Nashbar fluid trainer which works well.

https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Catalog...egoryId=200416



Or get a jacket for $30 and wear the sweat shirts you already have in your closet underneath if it is still too chilly ...

https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Catalog...egoryId=200485
Machka is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
laf
Road Cycling
38
09-12-14 06:04 PM
RWBlue01
Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg)
2
05-08-14 07:17 AM
MikeRides
Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg)
18
11-12-13 07:42 PM
Tandem Tom
Long Distance Competition/Ultracycling, Randonneuring and Endurance Cycling
4
12-27-12 11:13 PM
Arkansan07
Road Cycling
24
12-31-09 09:00 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.