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Old 01-13-11, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Kimmo View Post
What's the point of a centering screw on a dual-pivot?

It's easier to centre them by hand. The mounting bolt doesn't need to be too tight to allow this.

Also, star washers are pointless IMO.
I like it because I like to set my brakes very close to the rim. This allows me to spin the wheel and adjust the screw until the pads don't rub even thhough they have been adjusted to be very close. I like my brakes to have a hair trigger.
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Old 01-14-11, 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by UmneyDurak View Post
I did say weight is one of the differences, but I don't believe it effects the performance. The response and modulation is more of a function of brake pads, and hand control. Although I admit never used super duper light weight after market brakes, so maybe you have a point there.

Yeah the junior should learn to use the brakes, then again some of the older gents could also benefit from it. From what I have seen in crits.
Junior was more in reference to experience rather than direct age or category.

Brake pads affect the feel of brakes/response, but the overall control is a function of the combination of the lever to the caliper to the cables. If you don't think there is much if any of a difference that is most likely because you probably haven't ridden with many different brakes. You just can't know until you have done it.

Originally Posted by Kimmo View Post
What's the point of a centering screw on a dual-pivot?

It's easier to centre them by hand. The mounting bolt doesn't need to be too tight to allow this.

Also, star washers are pointless IMO.
I agree with the whole centering screw thing for the most part but I understand why it is there and once upon a time I celebrated its inclusion.

As for the star washer....take it out and try to brake and see what happens after you let go. Then you'll know why it is there. I advise not doing this out on the road BTW.
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001 View Post
As for the star washer....take it out and try to brake and see what happens after you let go. Then you'll know why it is there. I advise not doing this out on the road BTW.
When I worked for a shop, I couldn't count how many home mechanics took a bike in saying they couldn't get the brake to stay centered.
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001 View Post
Junior was more in reference to experience rather than direct age or category.

Brake pads affect the feel of brakes/response, but the overall control is a function of the combination of the lever to the caliper to the cables. If you don't think there is much if any of a difference that is most likely because you probably haven't ridden with many different brakes. You just can't know until you have done it.
SRAM Rival, Force, Shimano tiagra, 105, ultegra, some generic brakes. The biggest difference was the pads.
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I'm a little leery of Sram brakes after seeing how the cable was secured in a small plastic piece instead of metal...
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Originally Posted by UmneyDurak View Post
SRAM Rival, Force, Shimano tiagra, 105, ultegra, some generic brakes. The biggest difference was the pads.
Yup - those are all almost the exact same brake caliper. There isn't much of a difference. Try a DA brake or a good set of Campy clampers...
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001 View Post
Yup - those are all almost the exact same brake caliper. There isn't much of a difference. Try a DA brake or a good set of Campy clampers...
Would love to, have a spare to send me?
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Originally Posted by UmneyDurak View Post
Would love to, have a spare to send me?
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Originally Posted by UmneyDurak View Post
Never understood a question "How good are brakes (insert name)". It's a mechanical device. You pull on a lever and through a cable it contracts the calipers. The main difference is in weight (doesn't effect performance) and in the brake pads, which can be swapped at will.
Oy vey.
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I had some OEM Tektro pads that were junk. I'll bet that DA or Campy brakes would suck if I stuck those pads on 'em.
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so these are pretty solid calipers for daily riding and commuting around the city? yes?
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