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Old 01-17-11, 04:16 PM
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Weird Leg Pain

So I've had this weird leg pain that has been bothering me off and on for the past two months or so. I was off the bike ~ two weeks in December and it still was there. It does not hurt when I'm on the bike, but hurts pretty solid the second I get off and the rest of the day when I bend my knee. I got my bike refit a few weeks back and it feels much better, but my leg still is bothering me in that one place. The fitter didn't really know why it hurt there, and was pretty confident in the new fit. I I tend to agree, I think I just haven't been able to heal it from the original injury before. I thought it was starting to get better, but after a 3 and a half hour ride today it's hurting pretty good again.

Was hoping to get some response here before I bit the bullet and go see a doc. Someone out there has had to have had this before, but I can't find any threads on it, only on the normal saddle to high/low or overtrained knee injuries. To me it feels like it just needs to stretch out, but I can't find a stretch that gets to it. On the diagram below, it's the light blue peroneus longus, and it hurts right on the bone or whatever that is that is hard on the right side of the lower right leg. It's really not even part of the knee I don't think. I have horrible hamstring flexibility and it looks like the hamstring and that connect, could that be the problem? I've been stretching my hamstrings a good bit and I think that is maybe why it was getting better for a while? Anyways any help is appreciated.

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Ham string flexibility is always a good place to start - stretch.
There are a few other things to check when you have pain there:
1: shoes. Make sure your shoes give good arch support and consider the use of varus wedges. To demonstrate, look at your lower leg and rotate your foot so your arch lifts, you will see that your lower leg rotates, and when it does the bony part you say hurts becomes less prominent. This means as tendons can glide over it more easily. not all bike fitters will be able to advise on this and it is often a matter of trial and error. check out specialised web site for details of shoes and more info
2: Stance width. the lateral collateral ligament connects in that area and may be over worked if you stance width is too narrow. I have had difficulty with this. Try putting a few washers between pedal and crank and setting your cleats to the inside of the shoe to get more stance width.
3: The IT band also connects in close proximity to the Lateral collateral ligament and it can be difficult to know exactly where pain is comming from. google up some stretches to help that too or try using a foam roller.

The fact you have had a bike fit means your basics should be close to right but many fitters wont advise on the above because it is extremely difficult to determine by looking at someone. I have posted here based on my own direct experience so take it or leave it, I have no medical knowledge, just 20 years of enjoying cycling and various knee issues.

If you still have pain then go very easy on the training until you have sorted the problem. It band issues in particular are very difficult to get rid of once they start. also be aware you might have it set up correctly and just need a few more base miles before things settle down.

good luck
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I ain't no doctor but it almost sounds like you have shin splint.
Go see your Doc.
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I had a similar problem and it turned out to be the IT band which is a tendon that runs from the hip to the calf. Did some physical therapy and proper stretching and the use of a foam roller did the trick. I did the PT for a little bit and then did it on my own until I felt better. Google "IT band" and "foam roller" for information.

I'm not a doctor either. It probably wouldn't hurt to have one check you out to be sure.
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I'm hoping it's not the IT band, but that is what my mom said when I first brought it up to her as well. I've already been trying to stretch out the IT band along with the hamstrings in my normal routines. I have a foam roller that I use as well, but only got that just recently. I don't think it's the shin splint since it's not really on the shin, but definitely still a possibility. The pain only came about since raising my too low of saddle I rode on last season, so I'm thinking it has something to do with either the change of pedal motion from a higher saddle or flexibility with a higher saddle. My mistake was to raise the saddle before getting the bike refit, but I was getting in front of the knee pain and wanted to ride some. It did solve that knee pain though, hah.

Sounds like I should probably just see a doc though since it seems like it could be a number of things. Hoping it won't be too hard to PT the pain away since the season is about to get pretty busy.
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Go buy a Foam Roll.

They are about $25 at Target or Walmart or Sports Authority... Follow the DVD. It is going to hurt like hell for a little while, but eventually, it will stretch out your muscles and alleviate a lot of your pain.

And yes, tight hamstrings are a likely culprit.
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Originally Posted by topflightpro View Post
Go buy a Foam Roll.

They are about $25 at Target or Walmart or Sports Authority... Follow the DVD. It is going to hurt like hell for a little while, but eventually, it will stretch out your muscles and alleviate a lot of your pain.

And yes, tight hamstrings are a likely culprit.
Like I said in the post above, I already have a foam roller.

All of the talk of foam roller made me wonder if there was something for this exact place on the leg though. I usually just do the IT band, hamstrings, calves. I ended up finding the youtube video below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXFt7...eature=related

Just FYI in case anyone ever has this pain. Seriously 2 minutes on my leg that was hurting with that roller exercise and the pain is completely gone and hasn't bothered me since (been like 3 hours). It may not have cured it permanently, but at least I know that I should be able to strengthen it/loosen it up daily with this stretch and hopefully rid myself of it soon.
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Improper cleat/pedal position could cause pain in these muscles. On some shoes you can move your cleat around a bit to find the most comfortable position.
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So I've had this weird leg pain that has been bothering me off and on for the past two months or so. I was off the bike ~ two weeks in December and it still was there. It does not hurt when I'm on the bike, but hurts pretty solid the second I get off and the rest of the day when I bend my knee. I got my bike refit a few weeks back and it feels much better, but my leg still is bothering me in that one place. The fitter didn't really know why it hurt there, and was pretty confident in the new fit. I I tend to agree, I think I just haven't been able to heal it from the original injury before. I thought it was starting to get better, but after a 3 and a half hour ride today it's hurting pretty good again.

Was hoping to get some response here before I bit the bullet and go see a doc. Someone out there has had to have had this before, but I can't find any threads on it, only on the normal saddle to high/low or overtrained knee injuries. To me it feels like it just needs to stretch out, but I can't find a stretch that gets to it. On the diagram below, it's the light blue peroneus longus, and it hurts right on the bone or whatever that is that is hard on the right side of the lower right leg. It's really not even part of the knee I don't think. I have horrible hamstring flexibility and it looks like the hamstring and that connect, could that be the problem? I've been stretching my hamstrings a good bit and I think that is maybe why it was getting better for a while? Anyways any help is appreciated.

Do you heave health insurance? If so go see the orthopedist. I did and now I'm doing some PT for a pulled calf muscle that I thought was knee pain. With the leg you can't self diagnose leg pain. It took me more than half a year and a bunch of buying this or that to find out the dr. would have been the first best choice.
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