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wheelset decisions..bontrager Race lite, Soul or custom build

Old 01-21-11, 08:43 AM
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wheelset decisions..bontrager Race lite, Soul or custom build

I'm looking to get a new race wheel set fro the upcoming season and have a budget of 600. I currently have Xero XSR-3 wheels that are 2048 grams

a friend of mine is selling a new set of bontrager race lites wheels that weigh in at 1711 grams

I could also buy some soul wheels the 3.0's or the 30.sl.... I'm 210 right now and need to get allot lighter for the sl's I'd say but they are 1540 and 1400 respectively

Then of course there is custom and I'd more than likely talk to Psimet

what would you do?
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I'm always a big advocate for custom. They are tailored to your needs/desires, and will usually last longer and be easier to repair than factory wheels.
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I too am a big fan of custom wheels.
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I'd go with Soul or Psimet, both will probably be lighter and more durable than Bontrager wheels. You can't go wrong with either. We have 2 sets of soul wheels that are great, and I have a wheel being built by Psimet right now.
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my only concern with the souls is if have issues the ease and availability of parts.... this is something I need to ask about

in my area there are a number of great shops so even with a cusotm build I'm confident I could find replacement parts on short notice unless I choose part that are extremely odd
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Originally Posted by Smallguy
I'm looking to get a new race wheel set fro the upcoming season and have a budget of 600. I currently have Xero XSR-3 wheels that are 2048 grams

a friend of mine is selling a new set of bontrager race lites wheels that weigh in at 1711 grams

I could also buy some soul wheels the 3.0's or the 30.sl.... I'm 210 right now and need to get allot lighter for the sl's I'd say but they are 1540 and 1400 respectively

Then of course there is custom and I'd more than likely talk to Psimet

what would you do?

What is the cost of the race lites?
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my only concern with the souls is if have issues the ease and availability of parts.... this is something I need to ask about

in my area there are a number of great shops so even with a cusotm build I'm confident I could find replacement parts on short notice unless I choose part that are extremely odd
Sean at Soul will take care of you. I have a set of S2.0 wheels. Have had 2 issues with them in almost 2 years. First issue was wheels needed tensioning after a month or so of use. Had my LBS do it and Sean reimbursed me. Second issue was a bent front rim from a wreck in a race. Sean sold me a new rim and I had it in my hands in 2 weeks. The wheels have been great. I'm about 165 lbs and beat the snot out of these wheels and they hold up fine.
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What is the cost of the race lites?
he is asking 550 they retail for 700 locally
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Originally Posted by Smallguy
my only concern with the souls is if have issues the ease and availability of parts.... this is something I need to ask about

in my area there are a number of great shops so even with a cusotm build I'm confident I could find replacement parts on short notice unless I choose part that are extremely odd
Sean uses fairly standard parts that you could easily repair locally if needed.

That being said i hope everyone realizes where my vote is going.....I's gots teamz to payz forz. rrrrrroarz....(psimet BTW)...
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Originally Posted by mebaxter
Sean at Soul will take care of you. I have a set of S2.0 wheels. Have had 2 issues with them in almost 2 years. First issue was wheels needed tensioning after a month or so of use. Had my LBS do it and Sean reimbursed me. Second issue was a bent front rim from a wreck in a race. Sean sold me a new rim and I had it in my hands in 2 weeks. The wheels have been great. I'm about 165 lbs and beat the snot out of these wheels and they hold up fine.
I have no doubts Sean is a stand up guy and will stand behind his products. My concern is if I break a spoke on a hard trianing ride or mess up my hub and need parts how available are the spokes and hub bearings?

I've had issues before and blown forks on my mtb 4-5 days out from a major trace and was lucky to get it repaired
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
Sean uses fairly standard parts that you could easily repair locally if needed.

That being said i hope everyone realizes where my vote is going.....I's gots teamz to payz forz. rrrrrroarz....(psimet BTW)...
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No offense to your buddy but I've got some race x lite aeros which are a step up from the Race Lites and I thought about getting rid of them on my new bike and would have probably asked $400ish. Bontry wheels are tough and have nice hubs but in general I think they are overpriced for what they are.

I would recommend custom mostly because you are a bigger rider and a custom builder can help you find the sweetspot of weight, durability and price. One hubset to look at may be DT Swiss' new 350 series. They are Taiwan made hubshells with 240 internals. So they weigh a bit more but should perform really well. They come in around $250 for the set, though they only come in 28 and 32 holes. It would be really nice to see a 24 hole front option.

Best of luck!
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Velocity has some new Race hubs out that I've been using on my last couple of builds. Combine them with some Sapim Laser spokes and a set of KinLin XR-300 or 270s and you'd be in business well under budget. Let me know if you'd be interested.
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Stay away from the Race Lites. Especially if they are used.
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Originally Posted by milchad
Velocity has some new Race hubs out that I've been using on my last couple of builds. Combine them with some Sapim Laser spokes and a set of KinLin XR-300 or 270s and you'd be in business well under budget. Let me know if you'd be interested.
Their race hubs are re-branded Novatechs - same basic models that I use. They looked similar but I confirmed it with Velocity at Interbike this year.
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
Their race hubs are re-branded Novatechs - same basic models that I use. They looked similar but I confirmed it with Velocity at Interbike this year.
What site sells Novatech hubs?
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Originally Posted by milchad
What site sells Novatech hubs?
I don't understand your question. They are OEM hubs. You can order direct from the factory in minimum order quantities of 30+ units or you can buy them re-branded in any number of wheelsets out there. Williams, Neuvation, Velocity, etc. I don't re-brand them in mine. They are stamped "Novatech".

FWIW - Novatech is trying to hit more of the US market and trying to get the brand better known. They are currently re-evaluating all of their private labeling agreements and already establishing a front on the West Coast. You can now see their adds for pre-built wheels in places like VeloNews.
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I just picked up some ROL sl/slr 's and like them a lot. Sturdy, standard parts, 30mm rim. Take a look at ROL wheels.

(This is coming from someone who got sick of having to send in Easton wheels to get them repaired. I will never again get wheels that can only be repaired at the factory.)
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$550 for Race lites is NOT a good price. With the huge number of bikes that come with Bontrager wheels, it's telling how many fewer are still using them.

I like the look of the paired spokes, and also think they they are pretty aerodynamic too, I just don't think the design is as strong. I've known many people with the regular "Race" model wheels who's rear rims came apart and had to be warrantied (myself included). The Race-lite's are better in that they have rim eyelets, but IIRC the spoke count is even lower than with the 'Races.'

In pretty much every case, I recommend against Bontrager wheels. And for $600, you can do FAR better in both weight AND strength. Just listen to the advice giving to you by Psimet on spoke count and rim recommendations. Most 200 lb. guys shouldn't even think about riding 1400 gr. wheels.

One more vote for Psimet here for sure.

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I'm fairly certian I will go with a custom set from psimet

I'm heavy and also fairly strong so I like the confidence of a wheelset built with that in mind
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I'm fairly certian I will go with a custom set from psimet

I'm heavy and also fairly strong so I like the confidence of a wheelset built with that in mind
I see what you did there...
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