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2009 Rival vs. 2010 Force Comparison?

Old 02-06-11, 03:15 PM
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2009 Rival vs. 2010 Force Comparison?

I'm updating my bike a bit this winter, which currently has a full '09 Rival group on it. I've been considering updating the components to '10 Force, at least the derailleurs. I'm wondering whether it's worth the expense to update the shifters and crankset though. From my reading, it doesn't seem like there's really much of any functional difference between Rival and Force shifters, just a small weight drop. Am I wrong about that? Also, I'm curious if anyone can comment on front shifting performance differences between the two cranksets? Anyone used a Force FD with both a Rival and a Force crank? Does one combination work better than the other?
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Old 02-06-11, 05:14 PM
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if you already have Rival i dont think its worth the extra money to go to Force unless you are trying to save weight and even then you wont save a whole lot.
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Old 02-06-11, 05:55 PM
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About the only upgrade I might consider is the Force crankset. Rival and Force work identically with a small weight savings by going to Force. The Force crankset is Carbon though vs. Alloy for the Rival. My CAAD9-4 came with Rival, but has the Force crankset.
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you will save about 4 grams total. Sram gave me a Force set of shifters as a warranty replacement for Rival. Compared them on the food scale, about 2 grams difference. The Force shift much better, probably due to the new cables that came with them. They were covered in a black coating of teflon or some other plastic.
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You got the info you need already.

If your Rival is tuned and in good shape, you aren't going to gain performance going to Force.

You can save a few grams, the crankset being the biggest weight saver.

I run Rival on my beater/commuter/C-X bike. The stuff is absolutely bomber / bulletproof.
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Originally Posted by martialman.45 View Post
you will save about 4 grams total. Sram gave me a Force set of shifters as a warranty replacement for Rival. Compared them on the food scale, about 2 grams difference. The Force shift much better, probably due to the new cables that came with them. They were covered in a black coating of teflon or some other plastic.
Ick, I hate flack jacket cables, the black stuff tends to flake off and gum up the cables.
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So what I'm hearing is that there's really no functional difference between Force and Rival. And from my comparisons, weight saving is pretty much negligible, I'm confused as to why anyone other than true weight weenies would buy Force over Rival then.

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The Force crankset is a pretty good improvement over Rival, but aside from that they function identically. Sometimes I think people "upgrade" just to upgrade without much thought into just how much improvement they can expect for all that additional money.
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Originally Posted by fluxgame View Post
I'm confused as to why anyone other than true weight weenies would buy Force over Rival then.
People buy things for many reasons other than pure function and value, otherwise there'd be no market for Rolex watches, Gucci handbags, or Prada shoes. You have to consider the bling factor. Many cyclists tend to be very fashion conscious and ostentatious. Then, of course, there is always the perception that if it costs more, it must be better, right? The manufacturers' marketing literature will certainly try to convince you of that.
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Old 02-07-11, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by bassjones View Post
The Force crankset is a pretty good improvement over Rival, but aside from that they function identically.
Are we talking purely a weight improvement? I'm assuming your Force crank is BB30, which is significantly lighter than the GXP version. Only ~30g weight difference between GXP Force and Rival. Sounds like I should just save my money until something breaks.
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