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Best quality - Gunnar Sport or Bilenky Tourlite?

Old 02-13-11, 11:06 AM
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Best quality - Gunnar Sport or Bilenky Tourlite?

Hi,

Im still on the fence trying to decide to pull the trigger on the Gunnar Sport or the
Bilenky Tourlite.

In you all experiences and opinions, which frame would be the better built quality and
most comfortable? Or is this NO difference at all?

Also, how would the Independent Fab Steel Club Racer compare to the above two frames?

Thanks
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Old 02-13-11, 11:29 AM
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I'm a fan of Gunnar and heard great things about independent Fab, but no real experience with Bilenky. But the name tour-lite sounds like it could be the wrong geometry for a road bike...but like I said, no real experience with them
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Old 02-13-11, 12:22 PM
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I've heard of Gunnar (good reviews) but not Bilenky so I checked out their site. I LOVE the lug work on the Bilenky Ultralite - Classic Road, but then I'm a big fan of classic lugged steel frames. The Tourlite you're looking at is described as being "great for both racing and touring", so it should make a fine all-around road bike IMHO.
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You are comparing apples and oranges.

I have a Gunnar Sport and it's a great bike.
I do lite touring on it every year. I've ridden coast to coast
across Italy on it, around Lake Champlain, from Acadia to Portland.

It's Waterford's budget brand.

I haven't ridden a Bilenky, but they have a great reputation.
So does Waterford.

But if I was deciding between the two, I'd prob go Bilenky.
As it was, I had Terraferma make my frame.

But I have ridden Waterfords and Gunnars and they are seriously nice bikes.

As long as you wind up with a bike that fits, you will love any of them.
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I agree with late in that I think you should probably be comparing the IF and Bilenky to a Waterford. The main difference is all three of them give you more build options than a Gunnar. That said, if you are happy with the Gunnar look and the frame fits the way you want for your riding you can save some money or buy nicer components to put on it. With hand built frames the whole point is getting exactly what you want in fit, geometry, construction parts and technique and finish. All 3 (and a half) brands have loyal customers and a reputation for great work. Go with your gut instinct.
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Thanks..

The thing is I have really particular taste. I want the top tube to ONLY have a slight slope, say like 2-3 degrees, im thinking from the looks, the Gunnar and Tourlite have a tad too much
pronounced slope for my liking. Does anyone know what Waterford claims the slope degree is on the Sport in a 56 or 58cm size??

Ideally, I LOVE the frame look of the Rivendell A. Homer Hillsen, Rivendell claims a slope of 2 degrees.
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Originally Posted by Elantr025 View Post
Thanks..

The thing is I have really particular taste. I want the top tube to ONLY have a slight slope, say like 2-3 degrees, im thinking from the looks, the Gunnar and Tourlite have a tad too much
pronounced slope for my liking. Does anyone know what Waterford claims the slope degree is on the Sport in a 56 or 58cm size??

Ideally, I LOVE the frame look of the Rivendell A. Homer Hillsen, Rivendell claims a slope of 2 degrees.
From Rivendell's site: Who shouldn't get an A. Homer Hilsen?

"Folks who merely like the idea of a versatile bike, in principle , but can't let go of their racing fantasies. If you stay home on July weekends watching your heroes challenge the hills in France, and your dream vacation is dressing like them and riding those same routes and dreaming of cheering throngs, then the A. Homer Hilsen is not your bike."

If that's not you, then go for it. The A. Homer Hilsen is not a racer. Sounds like they're made by Waterford.
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I happen to have a Waterford RS-22 with 3.5 degrees of TT slope. In comparing my frames geometry with the listed Gunnar Sport I'm going to guess that the Sport has around 6 degrees of slope. But if you call or email them I'm sure they will let you know.

Gunnars can be ordered with custom geometry:

http://gunnarbikes.com/site/bikes/custom-options/

It adds some money to the price, but if all you are looking for is one change from stock they may work with you a little. Even at $1150 it's cheaper than the rest and might be the best deal on a custom frame going. Bilenky might do the same too, give them call.
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They are all great frames - the more important issue is dialing in the fit. I lean toward the Waterford/Gunnar (my wife has a Waterford), because we have a great local shop and fitter (Vecchio's in Boulder) who handle Waterford and Gunnar for their steel frames. If I lived in Philly, I'd go with a Bilenky; Seattle, Rodriguez; New Hampshire, IFC; etc. The relationship with the frame builder, either directly or through a shop you can trust, is as important as who builds it.

I once had some work done by Bob Brown, an excellent frame builder if you're in Minnesota. One of the bikes Bob modded for me hasn't worked out as I would have liked. Nothing against Bob; his work was superb but the mods weren't enough to get the bike to fit me right. When I can afford it, I will be likely be getting a Waterford or something to replace it. The bottom line is get the fit and function right the first time, then find someone you can trust and communicate with to get it built.
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Bilenky knew what I wanted better than I did.
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