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facepalm.
Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
(Post 12234252)
It is on topic because headset type dictates your fork selection. Threaded headsets = threaded steerer tubes, which means no CF steerer tube fork, which means that the added weight of the quill stem, threaded headset, and steel steerer tube is going to be over a pound.
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Originally Posted by Rutnick
(Post 12235675)
facepalm.
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and sometimes people just talk to hear themselves talk
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...and some people facepalm for no reason whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by roccobike
(Post 12231250)
I have several vintage bikes. Two are completely built up with STI shifters and newer wheels, but one still has the old quill stem. At least two more are in the que for rebuild. AND if I could change them to 1 1/8 threadless, I would. Old quill may look good, but they are a real PITA when you're changing bars or stem length. True they are slightly easier to change height compared to threadless, but it's not worth the advantage. BTW, one of my vintage rides still has the threadless headset, but I put a 1 1/8 threadless converter in place of the original quill so I could use newer stems.
IMHO, only go with quill/threaded if you are totally committed to the vintage look regardless of how difficult it will be to change stems. http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...g4oZoidzaPNYnZ |
Originally Posted by roccobike
(Post 12231250)
Old quill may look good, but they are a real PITA when you're changing bars...
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Are people really changing there bars and stem that often? I have 4 bikes that I built for myself and one that I built for my wife, plus 3 more bikes between the 2 of us that are essentially store bought stock. On each I left the tape off for a few test fit rides and when I got things sorted the way I wanted I tighten everything, taped up and done. Of the five that I built 2 are threadless, 3 threaded. I have yet to remove the bars on any of them. I know I'm not everyone else, but I am wondering who really uses this 'convenience' a lot.
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Originally Posted by 55/Rad
(Post 12239577)
A nice quill with a hinged front solves this.
I'm particular when it comes to quill stems. I think they can be among the most beautiful, elegant parts of a bicycle, more so than is the case with even the nicest threadless stems. I tend to be partial to the Italian brands such as Cinelli, Modolo, and 3ttt. Thankfully, Nitto still makes some very elegant quill stems, and thanks to ebay there's no shortage of nice Italian quill stems, often still new in the box. But some quill stems are just as hideous to look at as the nicer ones are elegant and beautiful. My opinion is that you either get that or you don't, there's really no use in trying to explain it. My.02- |
It's not the ease of changing that grabs me, it's the handlebar options. On a threadless setup, you can use 26 or 31.8 (and some other odd sizes) bars. This is important, because not everyone fits the same type of bar. Your handlebar is a fit related selection. If the Regal might be the most comfortable saddle for you, would you want to use a seat post that only allows you to mount a Cinelli Unicanitor? What if you had a 1"quill stem that only takes a 25.4 bar, but the bar that is most comfortable for you is the 3T Ergonova that is made for a 31.8 clamp? With all the new types of bars out there, it seems kind of silly to limit yourself to the older bars.
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Originally Posted by rat fink
(Post 12239977)
It's not the ease of changing that grabs me, it's the handlebar options. On a threadless setup, you can use 26 or 31.8 (and some other odd sizes) bars. This is important, because not everyone fits the same type of bar. Your handlebar is a fit related selection. If the Regal might be the most comfortable saddle for you, would you want to use a seat post that only allows you to mount a Cinelli Unicanitor? What if you had a 1"quill stem that only takes a 25.4 bar, but the bar that is most comfortable for you is the 3T Ergonova that is made for a 31.8 clamp? With all the new types of bars out there, it seems kind of silly to limit yourself to the older bars.
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