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Giant Defy Advance 1 vs. Specialized Roubaix SL3 Expert.

Old 02-19-11, 10:29 AM
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Giant Defy Advance 1 vs. Specialized Roubaix SL3 Expert.

I'm shopping for my next road bike and these two are at the top of my list. I'm kinda partial to the Giant, mainly because my first and current road bike is a Giant Defy and it has been great to me. But the SL3 in the matte carbon & gloss black is a damn sexy machine.

The geometry of the bikes is similar enough to each other, and to that of my current bike, that I'm confident that any difference in fit and feel will be almost negligible. Of course I will test ride both just to make sure.

One thing that gets me though is the $700 difference in price. Biggest difference I see between the two bikes, other than brand of course, is the wheels. Both bikes have full-Ultegra drivetrains and brakes. The more expensive Specialized comes with Fulcrum Racing 4's, and the Giant comes with Giant-specific DT Swiss R1800 wheels. Either way, I will probably sell the stock wheels (or trade for credit from the LBS) unused as I will also be getting a custom set with Power-Tap, and I am perfectly happy having my CXP33/Dura-Ace wheels as backups.


Thanks for reading, I'm glad you're interested in this exciting time of my life. Comments, opinions and suggestions are of course welcome !
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Old 02-19-11, 10:35 AM
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I can't seem to take my eyes off the Defy Advanced 0 either. This could get much more expensive.

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The Advance 1 and Advance 0 shares the same frame. I was a second away from ordering the the Advance 0 but went with the Cervelo R3SL. I'm thinking of getting back into tris. save the $700 and go Giant. All day comfort riding (not saying the Roubaix isn't) If the money isn't an issue and you like the Roubaix more, by all means, get it. Spending what I did on my bikes, I'm in no position to say that the Roubaix isn't worth the additional $700
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I also compared Defy and Roubaix. I ended up with the Roubaix Elite SL2 Apex, 1. Because it just "felt" better, and, 2. Because of that SEXY black carbon fiber frame!!!!! Seriously, I just liked everything about the Roubaix better....

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Old 02-19-11, 10:48 AM
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I love the look of the internally routed cable, but are there any practical issues with it?
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For me they felt quite different. The Roubaix (this is the 2010 models though) didn't communicate much feel at all. Felt kind of dead. Would be great for extremely long rides over poor pavement but doesn't inspire much confidence. The Giant felt much better in regard to road feel. You could actually feel what was going on w/o having to look down.
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Originally Posted by DUHI4GOT View Post
The Advance 1 and Advance 0 shares the same frame. I was a second away from ordering the the Advance 0 but went with the Cervelo R3SL. I'm thinking of getting back into tris. save the $700 and go Giant. All day comfort riding (not saying the Roubaix isn't) If the money isn't an issue and you like the Roubaix more, by all means, get it. Spending what I did on my bikes, I'm in no position to say that the Roubaix isn't worth the additional $700
Yeah, I'm aware they share frames. Same deal with my Defy 3 sharing the same frame with the rest of its line. It's mainly the color of the Advanced 0 with the aesthetics of the 7900 that I find most appealing. I'm in an über-rare position that I happen to have enough cash for any of the above bikes, so money isn't much of a consideration in my choice... more of a curiosity in what exactly that extra $700 or so is getting me... I don't even know if one of those wheelsets is any better than the other.
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Yeah, I'm aware they share frames. Same deal with my Defy 3 sharing the same frame with the rest of its line. It's mainly the color of the Advanced 0 with the aesthetics of the 7900 that I find most appealing. I'm in an über-rare position that I happen to have enough cash for any of the above bikes, so money isn't much of a consideration in my choice... more of a curiosity in what exactly that extra $700 or so is getting me... I don't even know if one of those wheelsets is any better than the other.
I thought you post here to get opinions. If you are aware of things, then, I am sure you know the way to be aware of other issues too without wasting people’s precious time. They are both generic bikes with different decals. What difference does it make? Just get the one with flashier decals.
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Originally Posted by UCIMBZ View Post
I thought you post here to get opinions. If you are aware of things, then, I am sure you know the way to be aware of other issues too without wasting people’s precious time. They are both generic bikes with different decals. What difference does it make? Just get the one with flashier decals.
Firstly, I wasn't replying to you, so I'm not sure what the problem is here.

Secondly, I was simply further conversing on a point that someone had brought up.... so again, I'm not sure what the problem is here.

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Thanks for your input anyway, I suppose......

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Yeah, I'm aware they share frames. Same deal with my Defy 3 sharing the same frame with the rest of its line. It's mainly the color of the Advanced 0 with the aesthetics of the 7900 that I find most appealing. I'm in an über-rare position that I happen to have enough cash for any of the above bikes, so money isn't much of a consideration in my choice... more of a curiosity in what exactly that extra $700 or so is getting me... I don't even know if one of those wheelsets is any better than the other.
I too loved the color of the Advance 0. What you're paying the extra for I would assume are the wheels and Dura Ace. The wheels are very good if not great and Dura Ace is Dura Ace.I've read though that 7900 isn't as great as 7800. If you have the cash (which you've stated) and want to go for "Bling" get the Advance 0. I don't you'll need to upgrade anything any time soon except for the saddle
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Now I'm thinking I may add a Defy Advance frame at the end of the season to compliment my stable. Maybe build it up with force (it's about time I learn to do my own wrenching)
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If you do decide to get the Advance 0 I'dinterested in the wheels if you still want to get rid of them
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Originally Posted by DUHI4GOT View Post
I too loved the color of the Advance 0. What you're paying the extra for I would assume are the wheels and Dura Ace. The wheels are very good if not great and Dura Ace is Dura Ace.I've read though that 7900 isn't as great as 7800. If you have the cash (which you've stated) and want to go for "Bling" get the Advance 0. I don't you'll need to upgrade anything any time soon except for the saddle
Other than looks, the one thing that I love about the 0 is that it's easy to assess what the resale value would be on the Dura Ace wheels. Not so much with my two main options since the Giant's wheels are Giant-specific, and there doesn't seem to be much info out there about the Fulcrum Racing 4's on the Roubaix. That's still a lot of money over what I was intending to spend.... so I guess it would depend on what actual prices the LBS offers me. There's another shop near me that is a Cervélo dealer that I have never been to. I hadn't given much consideration to Cervélo bikes, but a test ride on that R3 would make a good enough reason to check that shop out.
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The R3 is a different fit than the Defy. If you have the flexibility to ride the R3 do give it a test ride. I was set on the Defy but ended up getting a R3SL and an S2 over the Roubaix that was looking at. You may still be able to pick up a 2010 R3 at a sweet price.
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I also wanted SRAM Red over Shimano so that helped make my decision
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. . . Not so much with my two main options since the Giant's wheels are Giant-specific, and there doesn't seem to be much info out there about the Fulcrum Racing 4's on the Roubaix . . .
About 6 weeks ago I was sitting on the exact same fence as you looking at these two particular bikes and I found that the wheels are not really that much of a mystery - I believe the Giant Ltd. Edition DT Swiss are actually these DT Swiss R1800s with colors/graphics to match the bike. And there was a thread as recently as last week about the Fulcrum Racing 4s, which don't exist directly from Fulcrum, but are special model they made specifically for Specialized and are composed of the same hub as Fulcrum Racing 3, and the spokes and rims are the same as a Fulcrum Racing 5.

I think you will come to the conclusion as I did that the Fulcrum 4s are clearly a better wheel than the DT Swiss R1800, but all things considered I went for the Defy Advanced 1 - because in addition to it being $600 less, I just preferred the ride of the Defy. Once my credit card cools off I'll take care of upgrading my wheels. Either way - they are both great bikes and you can't go wrong with either one, just get out and test ride each.

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If you're also considering Cervelo, the RS would be more comparable to the Defy and Roubaix.
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