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Gege-Bubu 02-22-11 11:29 AM

New on trainer
 
I got a trainer yesterday.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5220/...dac59b7113.jpg


I had about an hour ride, and was wet from top to toes. Listened through several podcasts, but overall it was not as exiting as on the road :(
I think I will get myself into an endless soap opera, or TV series, or watch last world cup again.

Just have some questions:
- How to measure how what I spent on trainer?
- How often, and how long do you exercise on trainer?
thanks!

topflightpro 02-22-11 11:43 AM

During the winter, I'm on the trainer nearly every weekday for a minimum of an hour. My longest single trainer session was a hair over four hours. I like doing intervals on the trainer, as outside factors like stop signs/lights, traffic, hills... don't effect the interval effort.

I also find having something to watch is better than just having something to listen to. Action shows/films work well for me. Also, make sure you have a good fan to help keep you cool.

datlas 02-22-11 12:02 PM

Trainers suck. Big time.

Rollers are much better but still not so great.

Ride on the road is best.

/end rant

nesdog 02-22-11 12:07 PM

Lots of Spinervals workouts at our house. Really like 'em. The Virtual Reality series has you following Coach Troy around a course, as long as 4 hours. He also has 30 minute quick workouts. We get plenty of outdoor riding days around here but sometimes I just don't have the time to jump out or just feel like a different session.

crhilton 02-22-11 01:08 PM

Trainer is done in time and effort. An HRM will work, and a power meter will work better.

You ride as often as you can stand it if you're training for competition. If you're just in it for fun, ride once a week for an hour to keep your legs and body in some sort of condition. One excellent thing the trainer does is remind you how 0 degrees isn't really that miserable.

Inertianinja 02-22-11 01:31 PM

i ride about an hour daily when the weather isn't good enough to ride outside.

i measure my effort in how many "miles" i can go in an hour, just choosing the gear in which i can sustain 80+rpm

Gege-Bubu 02-22-11 02:15 PM

Fan is a good idea.


Originally Posted by topflightpro (Post 12262791)
During the winter, I'm on the trainer nearly every weekday for a minimum of an hour. My longest single trainer session was a hair over four hours. I like doing intervals on the trainer, as outside factors like stop signs/lights, traffic, hills... don't effect the interval effort.

I also find having something to watch is better than just having something to listen to. Action shows/films work well for me. Also, make sure you have a good fan to help keep you cool.


Gege-Bubu 02-22-11 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 12262903)
Ride on the road is best.

/end rant

100% )))

merlinextraligh 02-22-11 02:18 PM

+1 on HRM, or preferably a power meter.

If you go by HRM, realize that your HR will drift up as you get hot, so you may need to raise your HR target for intervals later in the workout. Use your sense of perceived effort to help with this.

As for how long, I find it a hell of a lot easier to do intervals on the trainer for 45 minutes to an hour, as oppossed to longer endurance miles.

So to the extent you can, try setting your schedule up so you do intense interval work on the trainer, and get your long rides in outdoors.

Gege-Bubu 02-22-11 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by nesdog (Post 12262928)
Lots of Spinervals workouts at our house. Really like 'em. The Virtual Reality series has you following Coach Troy around a course, as long as 4 hours. He also has 30 minute quick workouts. We get plenty of outdoor riding days around here but sometimes I just don't have the time to jump out or just feel like a different session.

Thanks! I'll check them out

Gege-Bubu 02-22-11 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by merlinextraligh (Post 12263567)
+1 on HRM, or preferably a power meter.

If you go by HRM, realize that your HR will drift up as you get hot, so you may need to raise your HR target for intervals later in the workout. Use your sense of perceived effort to help with this.

As for how long, I find it a hell of a lot easier to do intervals on the trainer for 45 minutes to an hour, as oppossed to longer endurance miles.

So to the extent you can, try setting your schedule up so you do intense interval work on the trainer, and get your long rides in outdoors.


I have looked up both, and HRM probably more economical.
And 45 min daily intervals seems a good idea.
thanks!

JoeB14 02-22-11 02:35 PM

Try sufferfest videos. Good workout, and makes the time pass easier.

http://www.thesufferfest.com/

rbart4506 02-22-11 02:47 PM

Let's see...January I was on the trainer for a grand total of 40hrs....

I use a power meter and have a specific workout, prescribed by my coach, for each session. I'll be on the trainer anywhere from 60min to just under 3hrs.

The most difficult rides are when I am told to take it easy...Those are the ones that drag on forever! I need specific wattage targeted intervals to keep things interesting.

I have cycling videos on the TV and loud music in my MP3 player. I actually spend very little time looking at the TV and concentrate on my Garmin since I am usually trying to stay within a wattage range. The video is nice for the rest periods...

The trainer is one of those necessary evils for anyone that can not ride outdoors and is trying to keep any level of fitness....

Gege-Bubu 02-22-11 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by JoeB14 (Post 12263639)
Try sufferfest videos. Good workout, and makes the time pass easier.

http://www.thesufferfest.com/

Thanks, I will look at them too!

Gege-Bubu 02-22-11 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by rbart4506 (Post 12263695)
Let's see...January I was on the trainer for a grand total of 40hrs....

I use a power meter and have a specific workout, prescribed by my coach, for each session. I'll be on the trainer anywhere from 60min to just under 3hrs.

The most difficult rides are when I am told to take it easy...Those are the ones that drag on forever! I need specific wattage targeted intervals to keep things interesting.

I have cycling videos on the TV and loud music in my MP3 player. I actually spend very little time looking at the TV and concentrate on my Garmin since I am usually trying to stay within a wattage range. The video is nice for the rest periods...

The trainer is one of those necessary evils for anyone that can not ride outdoors and is trying to keep any level of fitness....

wow. 40 hours a month that I would probably do in a good summer month.
I don't think I will survive more than 60 minutes on trainer.
I guess you are motivated more than I am ))))

kaimat 02-22-11 05:09 PM

Lately I've been watching Woody Allen movies and nature documentaries (like Planet Earth). But spring will be here soon, hopefully.

hhnngg1 02-22-11 05:45 PM

1. Cycling computer with rear wheel mount. Gives speed (=power on trainer, scaled), and distance traveled (only good for comparing between workouts)

2. DVDs of all sorts, both training & entertainment. Spinervals & Sufferfest rock.

I've gotten to the point that I actually get annoyed by all the wasted crusiing and downhill sections on outdoor rides - on the trainer, it's 100% quality.

clydeosaur 02-22-11 06:22 PM

Riding inside sucks period whether it's on a trainer or rollers. Do what you can to make the time go by quicker. I've spent a good bit of time on mine the last two winters here in good 'ole PA. Do what you can to by some time. Intervals, movies, etc.. I usually sit infront of my old bigscreen out in the garage with a pair of headphones on and watch the clock to adjust intervals / my effort. An hour is what I usually do. After that, minutes seem to turn into hours & my attention becomes lost.

Agave 02-22-11 06:27 PM

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TrekDen 02-22-11 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by Gege-Bubu (Post 12263763)
wow. 40 hours a month that I would probably do in a good summer month.
I don't think I will survive more than 60 minutes on trainer.
I guess you are motivated more than I am ))))

But that is almost exactly what you need to put in. 5 minute warm up / 45 minute workout / 5 minute cool down. HR, cadance, and time are your 3 best friends on the trainer. Miles don't matter to me at least.

Gege-Bubu 02-24-11 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by kaimat (Post 12264429)
Lately I've been watching Woody Allen movies and nature documentaries (like Planet Earth). But spring will be here soon, hopefully.

that's right! I do have Planet Earth and Blue Ocean series, it's great time to watch it again

Gege-Bubu 02-24-11 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by hhnngg1 (Post 12264617)
1. Cycling computer with rear wheel mount. Gives speed (=power on trainer, scaled), and distance traveled (only good for comparing between workouts)

Another update opportunity.... I have very simple computer, now I have to sell the idea to my wife: "Honey, I can't use the trainer without GPS bike computer...." )))))


Originally Posted by hhnngg1 (Post 12264617)
2. DVDs of all sorts, both training & entertainment. Spinervals & Sufferfest rock.

I've gotten to the point that I actually get annoyed by all the wasted crusiing and downhill sections on outdoor rides - on the trainer, it's 100% quality.

Big screen TV, fan and rain forest airfreshner will substitute the real rides))))

Gege-Bubu 02-24-11 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by Agave (Post 12264809)

Smoking hot! I have noticed the trainer mechanism is getting hot, but not that much!

Gege-Bubu 02-24-11 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by TrekDen (Post 12264829)
But that is almost exactly what you need to put in. 5 minute warm up / 45 minute workout / 5 minute cool down. HR, cadance, and time are your 3 best friends on the trainer. Miles don't matter to me at least.

Hm.... it adds up to 55 minutes.... ))))))))))

Quel 02-24-11 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by rbart4506 (Post 12263695)
Let's see...January I was on the trainer for a grand total of 40hrs....

I use a power meter and have a specific workout, prescribed by my coach, for each session. I'll be on the trainer anywhere from 60min to just under 3hrs.

:twitchy:

I, for one, choose death over that.


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