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avidcyclist83 02-24-11 02:08 PM

Durability of carbon frames
 
I am looking at buying my first carbon frame, but have heard horror stories of them breaking. How big of a crash is needed to total a carbon frame?

NathanC 02-24-11 02:09 PM

Facepalm.

Homebrew01 02-24-11 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by avidcyclist83 (Post 12274374)
How big of a crash is needed to total a carbon frame?


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_To32_vvuae...8/s1600/1-1-1-

sbxx1985 02-24-11 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by Homebrew01 (Post 12274381)
This big:

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I think it's bigger. Closer to this:

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RacerOne 02-24-11 02:15 PM

Nope, only /-/ big.

Homebrew01 02-24-11 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by RacerOne (Post 12274416)
Nope, only /-/ big.

Liks so: ?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_72a3V3u5fk...s400/leo-this-

mmmdonuts 02-24-11 02:25 PM

A local club is the crashingest group of people I've ever seen. Many injuries but no busted CF that I know of.

sbxx1985 02-24-11 02:26 PM

At least all the good carbon bikes are made in the US.

Be careful of the ones made in Asia. They will last, on average, five to six rides.

back4more 02-24-11 02:43 PM

I hear spontaneous combustion of a CF bike is a bigger concern. I would strap a fire extinguisher on that bike to be safe.

pallen 02-24-11 02:46 PM

Its basically just like paper mache, but lighter and way more expensive.

merlinextraligh 02-24-11 02:47 PM

To give you a serious answer all lightweight bikes can break if you crash them, CF included. That said CF is a lot stronger than many people think, and the odds of breaking your frame in a crash are reasonably low.

I've had 2 crashes in races with my CF bike, and the bike is still fine. I've seen many other people crash Cf bikes without breaking them. And I've seen a few crashes that totaled CF frames, steel frames, and Al frames.

Also, realize that if you do crack a CF frame it's usually repairable.

tuxbailey 02-24-11 02:56 PM

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Mind you, these guys ride CF frame all the time :)


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Velo Vol 02-24-11 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by avidcyclist83 (Post 12274374)
How big of a crash is needed to total a carbon frame?

How do you quantify crashes? Is there a unit of measurement for impact?

topflightpro 02-24-11 04:14 PM

Having broken carbon and aluminum, I'd say the average carbon frame is more likely to survive a major crash than an aluminum frame.

The aluminum frame sustained a dent in the toptube - handlebar slammed into it during the crash. The dent soon led to a crack, making the frame worthless.

And the carbon cracked at the water bottle bosses, which I would assume are a weak spot. To put that in context though, the carbon water bottle cages, which ripped out the bosses, were just fine.

twobadfish 02-24-11 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 12275025)
How do you quantify crashes? Is there a unit of measurement for impact?

(M / t)*{(1 + c)*[(2/M)*(Work)]1/2 - (r/d)*(cs1 + s2)**

gazelle5333 02-24-11 04:18 PM

search function is your friend...

caloso 02-24-11 04:23 PM

Depends. I've owned two CF bike. One was destroyed when I snapped the headtube off by crashing into a curb. The other is still ticking even though I've probably dumped it on the pavement a dozen times.

iam7head 02-24-11 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 12275025)
How do you quantify crashes? Is there a unit of measurement for impact?

international media coverage on your crash = big crash

walks bike home crying= not so big crash

Shimagnolo 02-24-11 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by avidcyclist83 (Post 12274374)
I am looking at buying my first carbon frame, but have heard horror stories of them breaking. How big of a crash is needed to total a carbon frame?

Yes.

kleinboogie 02-24-11 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by avidcyclist83 (Post 12274374)
I am looking at buying my first carbon frame, but have heard horror stories of them breaking. How big of a crash is needed to total a carbon frame?

Big. Unless you're big then small. Or you could just tell your frame it has some loose threads hanging out and it'll snap from embarrassment. You're basically riding a placemat covered in goo. Everything breaks eventually. With the steerer tube acting like a lever it's no wonder the head tube is usually the thing to go. Tip: Don't hit anyone straight on. Bunny-hop them and take the win. GL

Lanterne Rogue 02-24-11 05:19 PM

I was on a ride last summer in Colorado when, for no apparent reason, another cyclist's carbon fork broke during the descent of Grand Mesa. Among other woes, he lost his ear.

Many people have great experiences with carbon. I have a hard time getting over that one.

Some more carbon pix:

http://www.bustedcarbon.com/

Shimagnolo 02-24-11 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by Lanterne Rogue (Post 12275378)
Among other woes, he lost his ear.

Ugh!:eek:
Was he wearing a helmet?

Lanterne Rogue 02-24-11 05:40 PM

He was wearing a helmet. People who saw it estimated he was going at least 40 mph when the fork cracked. I heard about it afterward.

merlinextraligh 02-24-11 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by Lanterne Rogue (Post 12275378)
I was on a ride last summer in Colorado when, for no apparent reason, another cyclist's carbon fork broke during the descent of Grand Mesa. Among other woes, he lost his ear.

Many people have great experiences with carbon. I have a hard time getting over that one.

Some more carbon pix:

http://www.bustedcarbon.com/

You realize both steel and aluminum forks have been known to break.

Lanterne Rogue 02-24-11 05:54 PM

Yep. Everything breaks. Not always this dramatically, though:


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_V54WWNeyyp...9st03-ouch.jpg


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