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Titanium Spindle for Look Keo Pedals Upgrade Installation - w/pics

Old 02-24-11, 02:59 PM
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Titanium Spindle for Look Keo Pedals Upgrade Installation - w/pics

I ordered a set of titanium spindles for my Keo Max from eBay. The seller refused to provide instructions, apparently fearing a copyright lawsuit. So I got directions from one of their other buyers, and I'm writing them up here.

It's about a 5-minute job once you actually know how to do it.

The stock spindle pair is 105g.


The ti spindle pair is 60g. ($55 + 5 shipping.)


You need:
-A Hammer
-19mm, 18mm (or 17mm), and 12mm deep-well sockets
-Grease


Note that the parts are Left/Right specific, and that the threads are pedal-specific. So do one at a time.

(1) Use the 19mm socket to unscrew the black plastic threaded collar from the pedal. For me, it loosened by hand. (remember that threads are pedal-specific.)

(2) Pull out the stock spindle and note the parts and their orientation. From the outside-in, you'll see:
--Threaded collar (that threads into pedal body)
--Rubber Dust seal (under the thread collar)
--Small Shim (beveled edge facing towards the bearings
--Two Cartridge Bearings
--Large Shim (beveled edge facing into the pedal.

**look at the pedal upwards from the narrow end. Note how the spindle body just meets the inside of the large shim. that's how far you're going to knock the shim on when you put it on the new spindle.

Here is an exploded view, with the threaded collar pulled down past the rubber dust seal:


Here are the parts lined up:


(3) To remove the bearings from the old spindle:
--hold the spindle with the narrow end pointed down
--slide the 17mm (in my case, 18mm) socket down over the pedal threads. It should rest on the plastic threaded collar.
--hold everything steady, and hammer the top until the parts slide down.
**remember that you are hammering plastic, so i used lots of medium-force hits, rather than smashing it apart. It took a while, but everything did slide off.
**note that these parts are only held on by friction. they look extremely tight, but they will come off.

(4) Slide the rubber dust seal off, and put it on the new spindle.

(5) Grease everything.

(6) Reassemble the parts in reverse order:
--dust cover
--threaded collar
--small shim (beveled edge facing the narrow end of the spindle
--2 bearings
--large shim

(6) Hold the spindle with the narrow side facing up, and slide your 12mm socket over the narrow end. hold everything in place, and hammer down until everything is seated properly.



(7) Grease the spindles and re-assemble with the 19mm socket.

Now, remember that I'm not the manufacturer, i'm just a guy who bought these. So i probably can't help if anything goes wrong with yours.

It wasn't difficult, and the pedals are 45g lighter for the pair.
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Old 02-24-11, 03:03 PM
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nice! what do the pedals weigh after the mod?
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Old 02-24-11, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by M_FactorX19 View Post
nice! what do the pedals weigh after the mod?
about 220g.
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Old 02-24-11, 03:05 PM
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Who did you buy them from? I couldn't find the seller. I wonder if they work for Look Keo Carbon as well.
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Old 02-24-11, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tuxbailey View Post
Who did you buy them from? I couldn't find the seller. I wonder if they work for Look Keo Carbon as well.
I bought them from this guy: https://shop.ebay.com/wardhyd/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

They have versions for lots of pedals.
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Originally Posted by Inertianinja View Post
I bought them from this guy: https://shop.ebay.com/wardhyd/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

They have versions for lots of pedals.
Thanks.
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Old 02-24-11, 03:21 PM
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I don't know but my gut tells me those sleeves were/are not held on the spindle very well if you could just tap them off. I think those pedal bodies can come off the spindle. That wouldn't be fun. Weight reduction of 1.6 oz for the pair?
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Originally Posted by mmmdonuts View Post
I don't know but my gut tells me those sleeves were/are not held on the spindle very well if you could just tap them off. I think those pedal bodies can come off the spindle. That wouldn't be fun. Weight reduction of 1.6 oz for the pair?
right, because Look doesn't attach their bearing assembly properly. so many stories of stock pedals just shooting apart!
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If those were Keo Easy's the end product would be 200 grams @ 100 dollars. Not bad at all.
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Originally Posted by Inertianinja View Post
right, because Look doesn't attach their bearing assembly properly. so many stories of stock pedals just shooting apart!
No. It's because I have read how difficult it is to remove the pressed on bushing but it looked like yours came off easily. How hard were they to reinstall on the new spindle? I've looked into replacing the bearings myself but haven't tried it yet. That's all.
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Originally Posted by mmmdonuts View Post
No. It's because I have read how difficult it is to remove the pressed on bushing but it looked like yours came off easily. How hard were they to reinstall on the new spindle? I've looked into replacing the bearings myself but haven't tried it yet. That's all.
it definitely didn't come off easy. it was on in such a way that i thought it might be a single piece of metal took. in the end it took a lot more force to remove than my legs could ever accidentally do on a ride.
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Originally Posted by Inertianinja View Post
it definitely didn't come off easy. it was on in such a way that i thought it might be a single piece of metal took. in the end it took a lot more force to remove than my legs could ever accidentally do on a ride.
A little heat would probably make them come off easier.
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Originally Posted by Inertianinja View Post
about 220g.
thats not bad but my Ritchey WCS pedals weigh 240g so it wouldnt be worth the switch for me. if you own a set of Keos already thats a different story. nice job!

no lets hope Look doesnt try to sue you like SP did someone else!! JK
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Originally Posted by M_FactorX19 View Post
thats not bad but my Ritchey WCS pedals weigh 240g so it wouldnt be worth the switch for me. if you own a set of Keos already thats a different story. nice job!

no lets hope Look doesnt try to sue you like SP did someone else!! JK
The lawsuit thing is weird to me. I can't imagine what basis...for telling someone how to take your product apart? I think they're being overcautious.
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Dont mean to Hi-jack the posters thread but and i know this might seem a bit late...but for anyone else not quite sure how to do this mod here is how i did it...the bearing puller was cheap (about US$30) and doesnt put any force through the plastic threaded cap nor does risk damaging the bearings. sorry the vid is a bit slow and boring.
which ever method you use, Good luck and enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xUtu...ature=youtu.be
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