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Originally Posted by sced (Post 12313606)

To me it looks like a multivariate problem with, other than weight and cost, amorphous performance criteria and plenty of uncertainty.

Good. Let me know how that works out for you. :thumb:

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Originally Posted by sced (Post 12312985)

I sure Mr. Brandt did a good job at the time, but when talking about mechanical reliability, which is a notoriously complicated subject, it would be folly to infer anything from 30-year old or even last week's FEA without physical verification.

I can't imagine that any such study could possibly be done. Too many confounding factors. That leaves you to either accept the best engineering analysis available or not. Your choice.

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Originally Posted by OldPilot (Post 12312865)

Here is what I am thinking about getting...Mavic Open Pro Wheelset + Shimano Ultegra 6700 Hubs NEW for $275...unless Psimet can give me the same deal. HINT...HINT...Psimet....HINT...HINT

Too many expenses this year from fixing the roof after tornado damage, $11K for my son's auto accident, $2K to fix my truck & now my rear axle on my truck is going bad:notamused:..."if it weren't for bad luck" LMAO:lol:...You have gotta love life, otherwise it will drive you crazy. (that is from me, HEH):D

You can check these out, I have read here on BF that this wheel set is an excellent training wheel set. As I said, I plan on getting these for the old birthday.:thumb:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mavic-Open-Pro-W...#ht_1085wt_905

They can be reasonably good wheels provided the wheelbuilder is good. What do you know about the builder? I see he's selling them "as-is no warranty". Doesn't sound like a bargain to me.

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Originally Posted by sced (Post 12313606)

To me it looks like a multivariate problem with, other than weight and cost, amorphous performance criteria and plenty of uncertainty.

I had to use my "Pompous to English" translation application to understand that statement, bro.

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Originally Posted by halfspeed (Post 12315269)

They can be reasonably good wheels provided the wheelbuilder is good. What do you know about the builder? I see he's selling them "as-is no warranty". Doesn't sound like a bargain to me.

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Originally Posted by halfspeed (Post 12310165)

Disagree. Straight guage spokes and OPs don't impress me for this application.

Make up your mind ... other than 105 vs Ultegra they are essentially the same wheelset and given they are both heavy wheelsets I would go for the 105s and save $50 bucks.

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Originally Posted by Grambo (Post 12315428)

Make up your mind ... other than 105 vs Ultegra they are essentially the same wheelset and given they are both heavy wheelsets I would go for the 105s and save $50 bucks.

You're quoting replies to two different posters. Context is important. In the first case the OP/105 set was recommended for a heavy rider. In the second, the OP/Ultegra was suggested for a rider whose weight was not given. Furthermore, there's a significant difference in parts other than the hubs. See if you can find it.

Whether or not a wheel will be appropriate for any particular rider depends upon the size of the rider, the rider's goals, the terrain and the rider's wallet. So, to belabor the point, Open Pro rims on Shimano hubs with quality spokes can be built in to decent wheels. Whether they are appropriate for any particular rider depends upon many factors. So I stand by both posts.

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Originally Posted by Psimet2001 (Post 12311810)

1. In order for me to sponsor you - you actually have to RIDE a bike instead of just volunteering, running events, supporting your club and team, showing up at every race, cheering for everyone, heckling the hecklers, and always handing me a beer.

I do RIDE, just not in your category (yet?). If I didn't run events, then there wouldn't be many events here, and if I didn't support my club & team, as well as your club and team, and every other Chicago club and team, then you guys wouldn't have any fans :p Come one, you and I heckle hecklers better than anyone else, though next year I am bringing a bull horn, mmmm beer.

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Originally Posted by Psimet2001 (Post 12311810)

2. I didn't steal your team.....If I did you still ended up with the big guns that I can't afford. ;)

Shoot, our hookers...err I mean riders, are cheaper than you think :p FYI, we have another trick that hasn't been made public up our sleeve as well, should be interesting to say the least :)

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Originally Posted by Psimet2001 (Post 12311810)

3. I would never mess anyone's wheels up intentionally. Even yours. Although it WOULD be tempting. :beer:

Speaking of wheels, my old man stated he wants some and of course he asked about you, so hopefully he will get in touch soon. Gonna try getting a Twofor deal out of his wallet :) I want some beefy, heavier training wheels, kind of like the ones you did up for Rich, or even deeper.

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Originally Posted by nixternal (Post 12319844)

Shoot, our hookers...err I mean riders, are cheaper than you think :p FYI, we have another trick that hasn't been made public up our sleeve as well, should be interesting to say the least :)

Your hookers have standards though. they didn't like what I was paying. You know I love you guys and what you do around here.

36 double butted spokes an a rim like the Open Sport.
I built one for a friend who, after cancer therapy is back up to over 220. I used a 105 hub and an Open Sport rim and he has had no problems.