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Whoa. Castelli apparel is really small.

Old 03-07-11, 07:43 PM
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Whoa. Castelli apparel is really small.

I know, I know..."Italian fit" is always small. Well I recently went kinda crazy with CC's 50% off apparel sale. I was really sick of not having any decent cold-weather gear so I picked up a few Castelli items, but to my surprise I was way off with my choice in sizing. Keep in mind I'm 5' 11" 185lbs.

I went with a Sorpasso bib-tight in a size L. It is so tight on my upper leg it almost hurt and my skin tone was showing up through the black fabric b/c it was stretched out too much. The shoulder straps literally dig into my shoulders. I even hopped on my bike and it still felt too tight. I have pretty beefy leg muscles, but damn I only wear a 34x32 jeans size.

The Mannaggia full-zip jersey in size XL was also tight, but more so when standing straight up. When on my bike it felt ok. The zipper was always being stretched apart as I zipped it up. The zipper still worked great, but it seemed like the surrounding fabric was pulling too much.

I even got the Super Nano full-finger glove in a size L and it was too tight when I started to clench my fists. The tips of my fingers were definitley cramped in these gloves.

Now, I assumed that the sizing charts work based upon my current measurements. I also assumed that they were already compensated for being "Italian fit." I guess I was wrong. I play basketball and other sports where at 5'11" I am usually at a disadvantage. Am I too freakin big for cycling or what???
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Old 03-07-11, 07:49 PM
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On that note, should I return the said items for one (or two) sizes larger? Also got a Leggero wind vest in XL and feel a little constricted in this as well.
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Old 03-07-11, 07:52 PM
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I just got a Castelli short sleeved jersey off of bonktown and the XL is a snug fit at 5'11 172 lbs. Most of my regular t shirts are large or medium.
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Old 03-07-11, 07:54 PM
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5'10 145 pounds 30x32 pants

i wear castelli medium tops and Large bibs love the fit
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Old 03-07-11, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ilovecycling View Post
I play basketball and other sports where at 5'11" I am usually at a disadvantage. Am I too freakin big for cycling or what???
You are too big for this sport, but not in the dimension you seem to think. "Race cut", "italian fit", etc....for 5'11 that's probably closer to 160 pounds, depending on what your dimensions are like, of course. That said, the sizing chart says it should at least be CLOSE to fitting based on your waist, so I'm not sure what the heck the problem is. Never had any Castelli stuff myself. Some brands are just like that (at 6'1 165, I wear XL bibs in Assos for example, but L in other brands, and M if it were Pearl Izumi). Some brands just won't work for different people because of their body type. For every dollar I've spent buying jerseys on sale, I've probably wasted at least as much with unused jerseys that don't quite fit just the way I want.
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Ha ha - I just got my replacement Bormio jersey - they had originally sent me a large (it looked like it was for a 10 year old - my wife literally laughed out loud) when I had order an XXL... guess what - the XXL is still a fuggin' skin suit. I mean, I'm not small at 6', 200ish, but the length is still too short - it's getting returned. I'm getting more wool, instead.
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5'10 185 lbs. In Castelli I go 2XL bibs. XL is too tight and constricting. I don't care for the "snug standing" fit some guys swear by.
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I wear castelli stuff as well, i'm 5'11 but only 145 pounds. I wear a medium in there jerseys and they fit perfectly on me. I recently bought a medium sized castelli bib from real cyclist and it was extremely small. I could barely get the straps over my shoulders and when i did i think i deprived my thighs of oxygen as it was on so tight. I think i would need a L or XL for there bibs. Next time i decide to buy a castelli bib i may just try on at my LBS and order online.

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Originally Posted by max power View Post
5'10 145 pounds 30x32 pants

i wear castelli medium tops and Large bibs love the fit
This is me, but 2" shorter and medium tops is the fit for me.
However for the Nano gloves I had to go for the size large.
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Old 03-07-11, 08:33 PM
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You are just fat.
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5" 10" 185lbs. I use to do quite a bit of weight lifting and at one point (many years ago) was pretty big in the sholders, chest, arms. Not nearly as big as I used to be but still wear a XXL in the jersey ... any smaller binds / pinches in the arm pits due to chest size. Having said that I really like their clothing and the XXL fits me well (although all by bibs are Assos large). Piermont Bikes on Ebay often has good deals on Castelli clothing.
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Originally Posted by NathanC View Post
You are just fat.
Haha.

Thanks to all for your helpful comments. I will probably try a XXL jersey and XXL bibs as well. It just feels weird buying something with 'XXL' in it. I've always worn medium-large with all my regular clothing. Cycling sure makes me feel fat.
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Yeah, my Castelli bibs are probably my favorite (Enduro, Velocissimo, Presto) but it's always disheartening to have to buy "large", when all my others are "medium". I don't have any of their jerseys, but I do have an XXL Sotile vest. Most other brands, I'd buy L or XL.

Another brand with "third world" sizing is Capo. Their stuff is almost as small as Castelli.
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I typically wear race-fit small. Bought a Wilier jersey by Castelli....after several tries, had to go to XL.
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Santini is the same, I'm 5'11" 155#'s, Santini large bibs fit like a glove.
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This is why I try and buy all clothing from my LBS.
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Cycling wear sizes make me feel fat too. But I'm not fat. Between 5/11 and 6/0, about 193#, 34/32 pants. But I wear a size 44 jacket and am pretty muscular. Italian bicycle clothes weren't designed for my size any more than a Ducati 1098 was. Just ordered my first Castelli items (the Bormio jersey and bibshorts) off bonktown in XL, XL, and am getting the impression from this thread that they are going to be going right back after I receive them. Curse you darn Italian girly-men designers -- you're clothing sizes are lies, all lies!
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5'9" 145 lbs 31x30 and i fit the medium bibs w/no issues. My garneau equipes on the other hand in M are pretty snug...
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This is why I try and buy all clothing from my LBS.
Great. If they carry what you want. Some of us don't have that luxury.
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Great. If they carry what you want. Some of us don't have that luxury.
Agreed. My 'small' city only has two LBS. One I won't do business with. And another who is awesome but is a Trek/Bontrager shop.
I guess there is a third LBS but the guy is a 'bike nazi' and seriously has decided whether or not he's going to sell you a bike the second you walk through the door. Proof here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L1m1QIFTtg
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Originally Posted by NathanC View Post
You are just fat.
We are all too fat for this sport...
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It's not that Euro-sized gear is small as much as it is that US clothing is vanity-sized. If you're wearing jeans with a 34" waist, you probably actually have a 36" waist. So you simply cannot compare sizes of your t-shirts, jeans and PI gear against Euro gear. You have to read the sizing charts, measure accurately with a tape measure and be honest with yourself.

I'm 6'0" and 165 pounds and I wear a medium Castelli jersey and large bibs. This is me in a medium when I was not quite ten pounds heavier.

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i dont have any problem with my size
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So you simply cannot compare sizes of your t-shirts, jeans and PI gear against Euro gear.
Danger: PI recently went all euro. I have a medium Gavia long sleeve jersey/jacket that is loose on me. I recently visited their store and could hardly zip up their medium jersey/jacket.

I wear medium castilli bibs. Snug but comfy. The medium jersey seems too short. I have trouble reaching the pockets. 5'7" 150 or a hair less.
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