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Force vs. Red levers

Old 03-09-11, 08:20 PM
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Force vs. Red levers

I'm having a Force group put on m bike, and I was thinking of using Red lever, because they're Zero Loss on both sides. At ~$100 difference, is the cost worth it?
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if you have the cash to spare, yeah, why not?
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Originally Posted by Peter2 View Post
I'm having a Force group put on m bike, and I was thinking of using Red lever, because they're Zero Loss on both sides. At ~$100 difference, is the cost worth it?
No.

But if you can, why not?
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Old 03-09-11, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by kimconyc View Post
No.

But if you can, why not?
Good point.
Are $3000 bikes worth it? No, but they're nice. None of this stuff is worth it.
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I like the red shifters. That is the setup on my bike.

Everything force except shifters which are red.
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Old 03-09-11, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by hodie21 View Post
I like the red shifters. That is the setup on my bike.

Everything force except shifters which are red.
Exact same setup here. The Red shifters are probably the only thing that is worth getting the upgrade. The reason why the price difference is smaller between shifters is because it's the most visible part of the group and Sram wants people seen on the Red stuff.

You could just ride the Force and hope the lever brakes off and they replace it with Red like they did with me. . .score!!
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Old 03-09-11, 10:34 PM
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I just had to make the same decision and went with Force everything else and Red shifters. The reason I did it is exactly what you said: Zero loss on both sides. The consensus seems to be that shifters determine shift quality more so than the other components. I haven't built the bike yet and it probably doesn't make a noticeable difference, but for ~$80 it sounded good.
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Old 03-09-11, 11:22 PM
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For an extra $100 it's a no-brainer. Do it. When it comes to SRAM, I'm fine with even Rival everything except I'd need Red shifters and I'm also partial to the Red cassette. The shifters are the only place where Red really makes a difference. Red shifters + good cables (Gore, Yokozuna) = perfect shifting.
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Originally Posted by ilovecycling View Post
For an extra $100 it's a no-brainer. Do it. When it comes to SRAM, I'm fine with even Rival everything except I'd need Red shifters and I'm also partial to the Red cassette. The shifters are the only place where Red really makes a difference. Red shifters + good cables (Gore, Yokozuna) = perfect shifting.
I am extremely happy with my decision to go Red for my shifters, RD and crankset. I have force on one bike which is good but Red is just...so much better. Ceramic bearings in the rear derailleur, stupid light and stiff crankset, lossless shifting on the rear and front plus they come with Ride-On cables. IMO the shifters, crankset and RD are worth it. Mix in a KMC chain, Shimano FD and cassette and force/rival brakes? You're good to go.
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I used to have full Sram Rival groupset but I later upgraded my shifters to Red. They were expensive but with Red already good shifting got even better so I think it was worth it.
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I am waiting the arrival of my new bike, a caad 10 with rival. Since I'm new to SRAM what do you mean by "zero loss"?
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Originally Posted by rkelley23 View Post
I am waiting the arrival of my new bike, a caad 10 with rival. Since I'm new to SRAM what do you mean by "zero loss"?
Zero loss is the technology that lets the right Red lever shift almost immediately without the lever having to travel very far. It basically scales down the timing of the internal mechanism and makes it shift that much quicker and sooner. Sram Force and Rival have it for the left lever (front shifting) only. Red has it for both front and rear shifting.

P.s You're going to love that bike! I have Rival on my R3 and it's pretty damn impressive overall.
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Old 03-10-11, 10:16 PM
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I like how the Red come in colors
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I like how the Red come in colors
Eventually they will release red SRAM Red, and the world asplode.
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