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Old 03-10-11, 07:23 AM
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Im an idiot. No really I am.

So I purchased a new bike. A Pinny FP2. I was changing the wheel set. Not exactly sure what I did. Could not for the life of me get the chain on. Yeah so I am not exactly the most mechanically inclined. Chain seem to slip off derailer. Couldn't get it back on. I get the old bike tool out. Well that's when the mess happened. I know all of you out in the cycling world are having a good chuckle about this. Pulled this apart then that apart and could for the life of me get it back together. So it took an hour and several 4 letter words and everything is back in its place. Well got it on the trainer, went for a little spin everything sounds ok. Not perfect. What the heck do I do. I'm almost embarassed to take it to my lbs where I just purchased the bike.
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Old 03-10-11, 07:24 AM
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Im an idiot. No really I am.

You are in the right place.









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Old 03-10-11, 07:25 AM
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And if the Idiocy here is insufficient, try the 33.
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Old 03-10-11, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by rickpais View Post
I was changing the wheel set.
Hadn't you just bought it? Anyway, no matter - do you mean you took the rear wheel off and replaced it with a different one or put the same one back?

PS I am back on the BF in time for PCad's 50,000th. Good times.
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Originally Posted by rickpais View Post
So I purchased a new bike. A Pinny FP2. I was changing the wheel set. Not exactly sure what I did. Could not for the life of me get the chain on.
Wait, so you put the wheel back on and the chain wouldn't catch so you took the whole thing apart?
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Old 03-10-11, 07:46 AM
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Wait, so you put the wheel back on and the chain wouldn't catch so you took the whole thing apart?
Which bits did you take apart, OP? Also, what exactly is a bike tool?
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maybe it's because i've always been mechanically inclined, but how people can get themselves into situations like this is really beyond me.

OP, step back, walk away for a few minutes, and try and visualize how the system works, try and understand what went wrong. bicycles are really very very simple machines, there shouldnt be anything baffling you about whats going on.
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Old 03-10-11, 07:55 AM
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I was putting my carbon set on for a quick ride and a photo shoot. Is that so wrong. What do I do. I should suck it up and bring it to my bike shop. Ill do my investigation on my old Cervelo.
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Suck it up and take it back. Remember to take a six-pack of beer with you. The mechanics will respect that. Ask them to show you what happened so you don't make the same mistake again. You may need to pay some repair fee, but that's the price of education. Remember even NASA screws up every now & then. At least what you did won't get people killed on live TV.
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Old 03-10-11, 08:01 AM
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Exactly. Everything is where it should be. I figured that much out. It just does not sound as smooth. Im not a geeky bike tech but I can ride the heck out of a bike. I apologize to everyone about my lack of knowledge and technical terms. My bike tool is my allan key set.
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mechanically inclined or not a wheel swap is one of the easiest things you can do. Next time, before you remove the wheel shift into the small cog on the rear. Make this a habit. You'll never have to guess where it should go, always the smallest. Open the quick release and it should just drop out. Installing it is the exact reverse, no need to take anything apart. The chain should never EVER "slip" off the RD, it's just impossible.

Post some pictures so we know what we're looking at, I think we can get you straighted out. Atleast enough so that if you go to the LBS with it you don't look like a fool. Remember, there's nothing you can do to your bike short of breaking the frame, that can't be fixed. It just might cost you.
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Old 03-10-11, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by rickpais View Post
Exactly. Everything is where it should be. I figured that much out. It just does not sound as smooth. Im not a geeky bike tech but I can ride the heck out of a bike. I apologize to everyone about my lack of knowledge and technical terms. My bike tool is my allan key set.
Oh! Fear not! Hopefully all you should need is a basic tune up. Re-adjust the limit screws and all the fun stuff. Are you by chance using a newer chain on an older cassette?
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Old 03-10-11, 08:16 AM
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instead of just screwing around with it, why don't you go to the park tool website and look at the tutorials, learn how to fix it, and then fix it.

you do not need to be a "geek." a rear derailleur is three screws and a barrel adjuster. bike mechanics are not magicians.
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Originally Posted by AngryScientist View Post
maybe it's because i've always been mechanically inclined, but how people can get themselves into situations like this is really beyond me.

OP, step back, walk away for a few minutes, and try and visualize how the system works, try and understand what went wrong. bicycles are really very very simple machines, there shouldnt be anything baffling you about whats going on.
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If you take something apart for the first time you can always check on the internet to see how to put it back on. If that's not available and you have a digital camera take a picture of what it looked prior to working on it so you have a guide on how to reassemble. This is of course if your photographic memory is lacking. Take it back to the shop before you end up breaking the bike and pay attention to what the mechanic does, or better yet just ask them to show you how to put the rear wheel back on.
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If you are using a different wheel with a different brand hub now, it's quite likely that the derailleur needs a minor adjustment to allow for the slight difference in spacing.

edit: Cassettes do not sit on all hubs at exactly the same point relative to the right locknut. It would be nice if they did, but they vary small amounts. The amount of difference between one hub and another is the ammount you'll have to adjust the barrel screw when switching wheels. I had 2 wheels, and when switching them, I had to turn the barrel adjust 3/4 turn, either in or out depending on which wheel I was using.
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I can't tell from your post what the heck you did, or how your messed it up. But I'm sure there's a lot of guys around here who have done worse.
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Thanks for everyones help. Ive got it running smoother. I figured it out. Ive put on rear wheel several times. Always on the smallest cog. Anyhow cheers again.
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Originally Posted by rickpais View Post
Im not a geeky bike tech but I can ride the heck out of a bike.
If that's true then you must be an experienced rider. If you are an experienced rider then you must be experienced with flats.
What do you do when you get a flat? Because fixing a flat involves taking off and putting on the wheel...
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Hao- I am. Ive changed countless flats. Ive competed in several duathlons. One long course duo. Ride tubulars and changed those on course. Ive done numerous century rides and had 3 flats(clinchers) in one ride. Im not crazy. Something happened putting the tire back on. its fixed. I appreciate the sarcastic tone in your message. Wow it started as me joking around making a bit of fun of myself. Its a forum. Thought people would have a laugh and not question my abilities on a bike or whether i could change a flat. All good. I hope everyone has a very pleasant day. Ill be sure to chat with all of you again very soon.
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Originally Posted by Matt Gaunt View Post
Which bits did you take apart, OP? Also, what exactly is a bike tool?
I think it sounds like the bike tool is a BFH.
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Originally Posted by AngryScientist View Post
maybe it's because i've always been mechanically inclined, but how people can get themselves into situations like this is really beyond me.

OP, step back, walk away for a few minutes, and try and visualize how the system works, try and understand what went wrong. bicycles are really very very simple machines, there shouldnt be anything baffling you about whats going on.
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If you can't wrench it back together, don't pull things apart.
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Originally Posted by rickpais View Post
Hao- I am. Ive changed countless flats. Ive competed in several duathlons. One long course duo. Ride tubulars and changed those on course. Ive done numerous century rides and had 3 flats(clinchers) in one ride. Im not crazy. Something happened putting the tire back on. its fixed. I appreciate the sarcastic tone in your message. Wow it started as me joking around making a bit of fun of myself. Its a forum. Thought people would have a laugh and not question my abilities on a bike or whether i could change a flat. All good. I hope everyone has a very pleasant day. Ill be sure to chat with all of you again very soon.
It's easy for us BFers to be D-Bags about these things as we can't see things at face value. Only how it was described though a thread post. I would agree with the above stating that if the wheel/hib is different, you will need to adjust your RD limit screws just a bit as all hubs are different.
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Originally Posted by hao View Post
If that's true then you must be an experienced rider. If you are an experienced rider then you must be experienced with flats.
What do you do when you get a flat? Because fixing a flat involves taking off and putting on the wheel...
I've been able to fix a flat with a cell phone.
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Originally Posted by hao View Post
What do you do when you get a flat?
My question.

Originally Posted by rickpais View Post
Hao- I am.
Your answer.

I wasn't questioning your cycling ability.
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Originally Posted by rickpais View Post
Im not a geeky bike tech but I can ride the heck out of a bike.
BTW if swapping out a wheel constitutes "geeky bike tech" then I'm freaking Sheldon Cooper of bikes.
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