speed
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 384
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
speed
I am wondering about something. When riding with certain guys on the road I generally can outpace them. When involved with a stationary bike race I lose to them. Can I blame something or someone other than myself for this?! I weigh more than these guys. Does that make any difference? Or is that maybe they are just better sprinters? I notice that it looks like I am working harder than they when involved in the stationary bike racing, but they get better times. Should I just get over the fact that I lost?!
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Santa Cruz Mountains
Posts: 6,169
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Stationary bike "speed" is meaningless. And get over losing. It'll happen a lot in cycling. Even the best pro racers lose a lot more than they win.
#4
pan y agua
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 31,299
Bikes: Willier Zero 7; Merlin Extralight; Calfee Dragonfly tandem, Calfee Adventure tandem; Cervelo P2; Motebecane Ti Fly 29er; Motebecanne Phantom Cross; Schwinn Paramount Track bike
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1443 Post(s)
Liked 712 Times
in
366 Posts
What assumptions does the stationary bike race make about weight, wind resistance?
And yes you should get over the fact that you lost.
And yes you should get over the fact that you lost.
__________________
You could fall off a cliff and die.
You could get lost and die.
You could hit a tree and die.
OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
You could fall off a cliff and die.
You could get lost and die.
You could hit a tree and die.
OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 9,201
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1186 Post(s)
Liked 289 Times
in
177 Posts
How are you outpacing them? Riding away on the flats? If the stationary bike (Computrainer?) simulates a different type of course you might be at a disadvantage. Do you enter your weight into the trainer?
#7
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 384
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
yes, when riding a computrainer my weight is entered. the race I was involved in used trainers. I have noticed that on the computrainer I tend to outride the others when going up hills and lose to them on flats and downhills. This is the reverse of what happens in outdoor riding.
#9
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Santa Cruz Mountains
Posts: 6,169
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
[QUOTE=Bill;12359540 I have noticed that on the computrainer I tend to outride the others when going up hills and lose to them on flats and downhills. This is the reverse of what happens in outdoor riding.[/QUOTE]
That's telling you something. Listen to it.
That's telling you something. Listen to it.
#10
pan y agua
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 31,299
Bikes: Willier Zero 7; Merlin Extralight; Calfee Dragonfly tandem, Calfee Adventure tandem; Cervelo P2; Motebecane Ti Fly 29er; Motebecanne Phantom Cross; Schwinn Paramount Track bike
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1443 Post(s)
Liked 712 Times
in
366 Posts
yes, when riding a computrainer my weight is entered. the race I was involved in used trainers. I have noticed that on the computrainer I tend to outride the others when going up hills and lose to them on flats and downhills. This is the reverse of what happens in outdoor riding.
Conversely on hills, the metric is power to weight, and the smaller rider has a relative advantage.
So it sounds like the programming of the Computrainer thinks you are less aerodynamic than you are, i.e. it increase the aerodynamic drag based on your size to too great of an extent.
And it's assumption about the w/kg necessary to do the simulated climbs seems to be understated, at least based on this limited sample.
__________________
You could fall off a cliff and die.
You could get lost and die.
You could hit a tree and die.
OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
You could fall off a cliff and die.
You could get lost and die.
You could hit a tree and die.
OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
#12
Nonsense
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Vagabond
Posts: 13,918
Bikes: Affirmative
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 880 Post(s)
Liked 541 Times
in
237 Posts
yes, when riding a computrainer my weight is entered. the race I was involved in used trainers. I have noticed that on the computrainer I tend to outride the others when going up hills and lose to them on flats and downhills. This is the reverse of what happens in outdoor riding.
#13
Senior Member
Even though I'm slow, I'm pretty sure I could beat a guy on a stationary bike.
__________________
2014 Specialized Roubaix2003 Interloc Impala2007 ParkPre Image C6 (RIP)
2014 Specialized Roubaix2003 Interloc Impala2007 ParkPre Image C6 (RIP)
#15
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Saratoga, NY
Posts: 613
Bikes: 2007 Trek Madone 5.9 (Shimano DA), 2008 Kuota Khan (SRAM Red), 2009 Giant OCR2 ( Shimano 105 ), Lynsky R340 ( SRAM Rival )
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#16
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 2,745
Bikes: S-Works Roubaix SL2^H4, Secteur Sport, TriCross, Kaffenback, Lurcher 29er
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
So it sounds like the programming of the Computrainer thinks you are less aerodynamic than you are, i.e. it increase the aerodynamic drag based on your size to too great of an extent.
And it's assumption about the w/kg necessary to do the simulated climbs seems to be understated, at least based on this limited sample.
And it's assumption about the w/kg necessary to do the simulated climbs seems to be understated, at least based on this limited sample.
A letter of thanks to the fine folks at Computrainer is probably in order.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ochizon
Track Cycling: Velodrome Racing and Training Area
12
03-26-13 09:45 AM