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deep rims or reynolds solitude?

Old 05-02-11, 12:57 AM
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deep rims or reynolds solitude?

if there's a thread on this already i apologize but i can't find any answers in the search

i would like to upgrade from my stock wheelset (alex race 28's to scott hubs) and i am looking at wheels to order since i do not feel like building up a set.

With my budget i'm looking at either reynolds solitudes or the handspun h+son 42's laced to formula hubs (available through qbp).

I am a bit heavier at 210lbs so i am looking for something strong and lightweight.
both wheelsets have low spoke count at around 20/24. (I also prefer how these look to other wheels i've found).

-are the reynolds hubs at this price point far superior to formulas?
-i've understood shorter spokes leads to less stress on spokes and helps make the wheel stronger. will a 42mm profile really help over a 31mm profile?
-is crosswind going to be a noticeable problem with deeper rims?

any answers or suggestions will be appreciated. my other option was to just get mavic open pros to ultegra hubs because i understood this was also a good setup.

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Old 05-02-11, 01:13 AM
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at that weight, get the mavic open pros laced to the ultegra hubs (32h)
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Old 05-02-11, 10:25 PM
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open pros were my original intent but are they significantly stronger than the other two i'm looking at?
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deep rims vs open pro

I can't tell you which is stronger. I'll let you research that but I just laced an open pro...not quite done with the front. Open pro are easy to lace but if you're not building your own wheels it's just a matter of quality. The Open Pro is a very nicely done wheel with a really nicely machined braking face. I tilt the scale at 230 and plenty of even heavier guys have used Open Pro's. I'm building mine 32 front and 36 rear. The added weight of 4 or 8 spokes is meaningless to a non-racer. Ultegra hubs for me too...It's a classic combination for a very good reason.
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I'm not familar with either of the two rims you mentioned. But I had a pair of Open Pro's and also have a pair of 44 deep aero wheels (Zipps). Everyone keeps saying Open Pro's are durable but lots of people have problems with the, especially with splits around the eyelets. Do a search here and you'll find some of the issues.

Deeper rims along with shorter spokes generally are stronger as you pointed out. They also give you an aero advantage but not as much as some people imagine. Think in terms of a little over a minute over 25 miles. Also 42 mm won't really affect you in cross winds.

You're pushing the weight limit of 20/24 spoke wheels but they should last if built properly.

You might want to consider Psimet. He's a contributer here and one of the ebst in the business, anywhere.
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If you want lightweight, cross the H+Son 42s off your list. They weigh substantially more than listed. The pair will end up close to 2000g.
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assuming you havent got anything yet...

when you order your wheels, ask the shop if they can inspect the wheels when you pick them up.

make sure the spoke tension is even (does not have to be exactly the same, but should be very very close, also this is done with a spoke tensiometer) and wheels are trued and dished.

if they are not, the shop should either replace that pair with a set that it, or do it themselves for free or a tiny tiny tiny tiny fee.

i have a shimano 600 hub laced to a an old old mavic open rim, 32h, on my cross bike. i use it for commuting and recreational cross riding on horsetrails and old overgrown trails and ive only had to true it once in 2 years...and i keep a very tight brake clearance (about 1.5mm or less)
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Originally Posted by StanSeven View Post
You might want to consider Psimet. He's a contributer here and one of the best in the business, anywhere.
Rob (PSImet) built a Record rear wheel for me, to replace one that was tacoed in a hit and run. Outstanding build quality and surprisingly good price. He tends to be a little conservative, so the spoke count that he recommends might be higher than you have in mind, if these are training wheels.

He has a range of components, so price should not be an issue.

If you contact him, be sure to include info re your weight and your intended use.
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thanks for the feedback so far

i'm not racing or training for anything really, i just like riding and would like to ride faster. just a hobby nothing competitive.

as for the weight of the handspun h+son sl42's i'm going off the weight listed in the qbp catalog. is it really off? it's listed at like 927g rear 748g front. i've looked around and found some old thread on some other forum about a 28h set weighing sub 1800. has anyone seriously weighed them?

i've asked around and most people i know say hubs are hubs nowadays that they're all sealed. that in mind i was leaning towards the h+sons or sticking to open pros for the price. but for an upgrade the reynolds still look great.

and i appreciate the offer for a wheelbuilder but i sorta have a good deal on parts so i'm pretty much ordering out of catalogs.
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Originally Posted by tx_what_it_do View Post
as for the weight of the handspun h+son sl42's i'm going off the weight listed in the qbp catalog. is it really off? it's listed at like 927g rear 748g front. i've looked around and found some old thread on some other forum about a 28h set weighing sub 1800. has anyone seriously weighed them?
I have honestly never heard anything about H+Son's being off the claimed weight. It shouldn't be too difficult to build a sub 1800g SL42 wheelset.

Do stay away from the Velocity B43 or whatever their deep rim is called. Now those are heavy.
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yea i thought h+sons would be heavy but i realized they weren't triple walled like the b43s.

i think i'm leaning toward a mixture of the two. i like the idea of shorter spokes on the rear wheel because i already break spokes on my current rear wheel and might have a nice light wheel like a reynolds up front. unless there's something wrong with mixing wheelsets. or if someone can convince me otherwise.
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Mix away. I have a set of the Handspun HED Belgian wheelsets. Very nicely built and ride very well. I'm probably going to build my own set of wheels using the same rims as I love the wide rim ride. I am tossing around the idea of getting the hson rims instead, though. Wish they came in a wider cross section.
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i think my mind is made up. thanks for the input i'll post reviews when they come on
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