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Old 05-03-11, 07:42 AM
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First Responder, Road ID Questions

I lost my road ID and was thinking of getting another one, specifically the interactive one.

As a first responder, what is your protocol for using such an item? Would you actually dial a phone to get the info? Will the hospital?

I have no medical conditions but just got one thinking my high priced insurance might get me better treatment in the hospital. Is that thinking legit?

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Old 05-03-11, 08:06 AM
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I would be curious what first responders would say. I just carry a mini-wallet with my insurance card like any car driver or anyone else a first responder would be coming to help.
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Pallen, where do you keep that mini wallet? I've had things fly out of my jersey pockets on crashes before, and the EMTs are not concerned about your bike. That's why I wear a dog tag style Road ID. If I'm out cold, my chest is the first place they're going.
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I have the bracelet version, thinking they would look for a medic alert style bracelet anyway as protocol.
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As an EMT, soon to be paramedic, a first responder is likely to look for a medic allert/road ID bracelet to look for allergies/medical history/name and info, but unlikely to actually dial a phone number. That would most likely happen in hospital to notify family that you are there.
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Old 05-03-11, 08:40 AM
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As an EMT, soon to be paramedic, we certainly look for some sort of identification, and particularly medic alert style bracelets for any information pertinent to treating a patient. That being said, having a phone number isn't particularly helpful until the hospital gets a hold of a patient. If you have any other questions, feel free to pm me or post here as well. Ride safe!
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I have spoken to our local EMS about this. All of my local ambulance drivers, police, and firefighters are trained to look specifically for RoadIDs and know the various places that people wear them.
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Very common for the paramedics to cut off your jersey and separate you from your bike when treating and transporting you after a crash. They will try to keep your clothes with you, but mistakes happen. Having your ID attached to your body is a good idea.

And yes, the hospital will definitely call the phone number on your ID bracelet. Hospitals have social workers who are trained to locate and contact relatives when a patient is unconscious.
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Reflective ankle band, dog tag. RoadID may fit a tad more info on theirs, but the dog tag has what is needed.

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Originally Posted by urbanknight View Post
Pallen, where do you keep that mini wallet? I've had things fly out of my jersey pockets on crashes before, and the EMTs are not concerned about your bike. That's why I wear a dog tag style Road ID. If I'm out cold, my chest is the first place they're going.
Its in a small Fred handlebar bag with my phone. I have also carried it in a seat bag in the past. That's why I'm curious to hear from first responders. I would think they would check any bags for an id. I know they're in a hurry and all, but there's usually more than one EMT at a scene.
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Old 05-03-11, 10:27 AM
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depending on the seriousness of a patient's injuries, it may be a case of "load and go" where checking a handlebar bag would not be done by EMS. It is likely that PD would respond to such an incident as well, and they would check for ID in places other than the patient's body.
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depending on the seriousness of a patient's injuries, it may be a case of "load and go" .....
LOL....that's what my wife says about my Road ID bracelet...to identify the body.

With my OCD tendencies, the stuff I wear around my wrists is getting a little too much though: Road ID, holographic-powerband-thingie, Garmin watch, and for my charity ride next month, team bracelet and participant ID bracelet!
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Originally Posted by mpath View Post
LOL....that's what my wife says about my Road ID bracelet...to identify the body.
I believe the body is necessary to claim it a death, and thus to claim the life insurance.
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I guess I just don't consider riding to be all that dangerous. I don't worry about these things when I drive my car or go hiking or anything else I do. What is so special about riding my bike that I would need a special ID? If something happens, they will take care of me. It wont take much of an investigation to figure out who I am.
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Originally Posted by pallen View Post
I guess I just don't consider riding to be all that dangerous. I don't worry about these things when I drive my car or go hiking or anything else I do. What is so special about riding my bike that I would need a special ID? If something happens, they will take care of me. It wont take much of an investigation to figure out who I am.
If you have medical issues/history/allergies etc.....assuming you've survived but unable to communicate, minutes count....blood type can be stamped on the ID.

If you're toast, and you're traveling (eg. I ran around Diamond Head on vacation a few months back), they'll know who to call to collect the body.

When I run, I don't carry a wallet; when I ride, I may carry a credit card. But that's it, so $30 for an ID bracelet is cheap insurance for me.
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Originally Posted by pallen View Post
I guess I just don't consider riding to be all that dangerous. I don't worry about these things when I drive my car or go hiking or anything else I do. What is so special about riding my bike that I would need a special ID? If something happens, they will take care of me. It wont take much of an investigation to figure out who I am.

My Road Id has my wife's phone numbers on it. I don't have any allergies or medical conditions, but if I have an accident, stroke, etc. I want someone to call my wife. I wear it much more than I thought I would when I purchased it. I do lots of things outdoors like biking, running, snowboarding, hiking, hunting and camping. I don't always have a wallet on me. I also travel a lot and it gives me some peace of mind when I am far from home.
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Old 05-03-11, 11:40 AM
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I think it's about time I get one. Hopefully it wont ever need go be used.
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Originally Posted by pallen View Post
I guess I just don't consider riding to be all that dangerous. I don't worry about these things when I drive my car or go hiking or anything else I do. What is so special about riding my bike that I would need a special ID? If something happens, they will take care of me. It wont take much of an investigation to figure out who I am.
I can see your point. Unless you have specific allergies or medical conditions, any ID that they can find will allow them to notify your family. Since I have sports induced asthma, I want them to know that in case it clues them in on a possible reason I'm out.
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I use a Yikes ID. Similar to Road ID, but local to So Cal. Mine has my name, address, and 2 emergency contacts. It also has a reminder to feed the dog in case I'm unconcious. I have had several curcimsttances where my stuff came out of my pockets during a crash and I wanted to make sure if that happened they'd know who I was.
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I'll just get dog tags from http://www.dogtagsonline.com/ and spend $12 shipped.

But that's just me.
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I have a road ID, because I have Type 1 Diabetes. I could have a low blood sugar and pass out, and not be in an accident. Of course, I passed out in a mall once in 13 years and the parmedics knew what was wrong before they found by medic alert. Lucky I have only passed out once in 13 years.
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Originally Posted by ColorChange View Post
I lost my road ID and was thinking of getting another one, specifically the interactive one.

As a first responder, what is your protocol for using such an item? Would you actually dial a phone to get the info? Will the hospital?
As a paramedic, and someone who runs and rides, I know what to look for. I've tried to teach those around me what to look for in these id things but as for the interactive thing, a lot of 'first responders' won't have online capabilities to look this stuff up(not including 'smart phones'). The regular road id, dog tags, ice bands and ICE phone numbers work better since it's something I can physically touch. In my neck of the woods service can be touch and go.

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I have no medical conditions but just got one thinking my high priced insurance might get me better treatment in the hospital. Is that thinking legit?

TIA,

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Insurance don't mean squat. I'll send a BS patient straight to triage even with the best insurance. Most likely though if I'm coming to you and you were on a bike you'd get sent to the ER, but this isn't always the case.

I will disagree that first responders/emt/leo's/ whatever you want to call us won't call phone numbers. I've called lots of times to talk to family members, Power of Attorney's, legal guardians, yadda yadda yadda many times. In a true 'load and go situation' there are usually enough people that even if I take the 2 minutes to dial a phone number the standard of care hasn't been decreased.
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Insurance don't mean squat.
I figure this is the case for most EMTs. They're getting paid whether the patient is covered or not.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight View Post
I figure this is the case for most EMTs. They're getting paid whether the patient is covered or not.
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Not true, considering budgets are made based on billing. If the billing doesn't come in the money to get paid has to come from somewhere. I was simply saying that just because someone has 'the best' insurance doesn't mean anything. You'll still get the same CT, MRI, ect ect. Insurance doesn't come into play until you're looking at stuff like extended stays, then it matters. I treat every patient the same regardless of insurance. Spend some time on an ambulance and you'll quickly realize that 90% of the calls are from people without insurance. It's always the same speech. I don't have insurance so I can't see a doctor so take me to the ER.
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Thanks guys, good info. Since I don't have any medical conditions, it sounds like I don't need one, at least in regards to medical care.
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