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Got a Pro-Fit, still some problems.

Old 05-07-11, 07:21 PM
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I got a "pro fit" last week-end and took it out on a nice 40 mile jaunt this morning and was very pleased with the changes. While the changes were small my legs had plenty more in the tank than they have had on past rides. I am satisfied so far.
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Originally Posted by lazerzxr
The only real way to know that is from an xray looking for it, a bike fitter can only judge based on what they see. More likely you have less flexibility on one side which gives the appearance of a short tibia. If he has shimmed you to take account of it then the flexibility issue wont be solved and you'll end up where you started
I agree from experience.

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Also bike fits are over rated, go to 3 different "pro" fitters and you will get 3 different fits, all completely different and all will tell you that theres is "right" I gave up paying for fits years ago and spent the money on some better tools to adjust things myself. Ive never been more comfortable on my bikes
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Originally Posted by Hulley
I wouldnt say the hand pain is chronic. I really only put about 60 miles on the CAAD. I bought it to help with my motoX ...
was gonna comment about this earlier...
I don;t ride MotoX, but I do some light offroad on my Duallie KLR, some of which is pretty gnarly/rocky for a bigger bike.
On a Moto, your weight is not on your hands like on a road cycle. You may have done some nerve damage, doing MotoX and not realized it, because the bangin into the hands is off and on while doin moto.
It may now show itself more because of the relative constant weight on the hands, while road cycling...
same, same for the shoulder.
I know, after 3 or 4 hrs of bangin off-road on the KLR, my arms are toast... and I'm not really huckin anything on that 400lbs of loaded machina like guyz on real MX motos do... scary enough just droppin some small (read tiny ) rocks and ledge.

... just a thought and perspective
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A little update. I just got back from riding 21miles and feel pretty good other than running out of water at the 14mile mark. I started to feel the tingly fingers around 14-15 miles but nothing that moving my hands around or a good shake didnt take care of. The tingling didnt go away it just never got worse or to the point that I wanted to get off the bike. This was after moving my saddle back 25mm. I know abit too much at first but I was desperate. So its a move in the right direction. The funny thing is that was where my saddle was to begin with, the only difference now is a shorter stem (10mm), different saddle, cleat position and a 3mm shim under my right shoe. I still feel like I have a good bit of weight on my hands but nothing that would really ruib the ride. I'm willing to bet I can get more comfortable with a possibly larger frame or a farther saddle position. I'm gonna keep it where it is now a do a few more longer rides and get my body acclimated to the change. I'm happy! I may go for another ride later this evening!
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Originally Posted by cyclezen
I know, after 3 or 4 hrs of bangin off-road on the KLR, my arms are toast... and I'm not really huckin anything on that 400lbs of loaded machina like guyz on real MX motos do... scary enough just droppin some small (read tiny ) rocks and ledge.

... just a thought and perspective
As of last year, I was doing 110ft doubles in fourth gear on my 09' KX250F! I finally had a crash, broke ribs and punctured a lung. I was out of work for several weeks and decided I'm a little too old for this crap! I cant go slow to save my life, so to save my life I got off the dirt bike! What can I say, I'm young at heart.

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Not going to get into the hole fit thing here but I will say I think that 52 is to small for you, I'm between 5'7"-5'8" and while that really means nothing as far as fit for you goes when I got on a 52 at Helen's Bike they all said to small as soon as they saw me on it.
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Originally Posted by JTGraphics
Not going to get into the hole fit thing here but I will say I think that 52 is to small for you, I'm between 5'7"-5'8" and while that really means nothing as far as fit for you goes when I got on a 52 at Helen's Bike they all said to small as soon as they saw me on it.
Good luck sorting it all out.
i agree with JT graphics...I'm about 5'8" and i ride a 54 Cr1 with 110 stem (thinking about going to a 120 stem, but will be testing a lower bar position first).

I don't want to inject myelf into the saddle position argument but from personal experience, I've moved my saddle back by over a cm over the last 4 months and I've notice much less pressure on my hands.
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Yeah, I think a larger frame is in order. Maybe I'll go ahead and use this as an excuse to get the Lynskey!
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Well, I ordered a Scott Addict in a 54cm this afternoon. My LBS is giving me a great trade in and a deal on the Addict so I cant really pass this up. I want a Lynskey but I just dont have $3k for a frameset right now. I should have the bike in about 2 weeks. The Addict was what I wanted in the first place so I'm happy for now!
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I didn't go back through all the thread, but do you strap your gloves on real tight? I have found I prefer gloves without pads, and leave them un-strapped. I can't stand the feeling of a tight glove, and when strapped I tend to get a little tingle in my hands as well.

Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by rankin116
I didn't go back through all the thread, but do you strap your gloves on real tight? I have found I prefer gloves without pads, and leave them un-strapped. I can't stand the feeling of a tight glove, and when strapped I tend to get a little tingle in my hands as well.

Just a thought.
I have gone glove-less a few times looking for any possibility.
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Originally Posted by Hulley
Well, I ordered a Scott Addict in a 54cm this afternoon. My LBS is giving me a great trade in and a deal on the Addict so I cant really pass this up. I want a Lynskey but I just dont have $3k for a frameset right now. I should have the bike in about 2 weeks. The Addict was what I wanted in the first place so I'm happy for now!
Congrats! I'm looking to reward myself with a Scott Addict for when I lose 60 lbs. 30 more lbs to go!
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Originally Posted by KoYak
Congrats! I'm looking to reward myself with a Scott Addict for when I lose 60 lbs. 30 more lbs to go!
Sweet! Keep up the good work!
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Originally Posted by Nick Bain
i really wish more bikes came with more steerer from the factory.
The reason they don't is that they are generally cut for the maximum length allowable for that head tube...a most don't know there's a maximum height for a steerer tube as a longer one risks breakage.
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Recently sold the KTM 450 and riding a lot more mtb. I tried to ride slower too, but I would rather not ride. Besides, the exercise is much more fun...and cheaper.
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Well after about of month of waiting on bike then parts from SCOTT for new bike, I finally picked it up today! I went from a Scott CR1 in a 52, to a Scott Addict in a 54. WOW huge difference! I've only ridden around the neighborhoods (massive T-storms coming in) and I can tell a giant improvement. On the CR1 I had alot of pressure on my hands and I couldnt ride but 8-10 miles before my hands up to my shoulders fell asleep. Now on the Addict I can hover my hands an inch above the bars, lower myself all the down and raise all the way up without touching the bars! The pic is before I made any adjustments, I already installed a Specialized Romin 143 saddle that I know I already like. I know I'll need to make more adjustments but I'm very happy already! Just knowing that I'm comfortable makes cycling that much more enjoyable!
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This was an interesting thread, i agree with somebody saying that is a thing of balance, core has something to do but if the weight distribution is wrong little pains here and there will show up. As for the new bike the only thing that looks needing adjustment is the sadle that is not level as for the other stuff it looks pretty good

Like your bike, good riding and hope the pain in your hands is gone.

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LOL, yeah I adjusted the saddle before I rode. I threw the saddle on at the shop and snapped the pics as soon as I got home!
I'm riding in the Jacksin County Brevet this saturday so I gotta make sure I get the kinks worked out in the next two days.
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Originally Posted by JTGraphics
Not going to get into the hole fit thing here but I will say I think that 52 is to small for you, I'm between 5'7"-5'8" and while that really means nothing as far as fit for you goes when I got on a 52 at Helen's Bike they all said to small as soon as they saw me on it.
Good luck sorting it all out.
im also 5'7" + a little and ride a 52. i have zero fit issues right now. as you stated its not all about height.
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Hulley,

Just what type of "Pro Fitting" are you talking about? Are you doing a Retul fitting or is it one of those that use a bunch of different measuring devices? If you are doing a Retul fitting, make sure the fitter is certified by Retul. He should have his certification hanging in the fitting area. This is required by Retul. If you aren't aware of the Retul fitting system, it is the computerized system that is used by all the professional cyclist, including Lance Armstrong.

A Retul fitting takes about an hour a fitting and can take several weeks to a few months and anywhere from 3 to 6 fittings. When I did mine, it was 4 fittings in three months. The first fitting is for a baseline where the computer captures all the information about how you ride, sit on the saddle, pedal and everything else, including hand pressure on the bar. The rest of the fittings are to see how you are riding with the last set of adjustments and if more adjustments are needed, they are done then. You continue this until you are fit to the best its going to get.
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