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yzeater 06-07-11 10:36 AM

Look 585 Lightweight Budget Rebuild Thread
 
So I bought a bike off eBay a while back, and have been mostly riding it. Was a little concerned about the fit, but after some tweaking, I'm pretty happy with the fit (I had no pain on a century this weekend). With approval from the wife, I am starting down the weight weenie path. I'm going to call this the starting point:

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...1/c1dec0e6.jpg

This is after I bought it and put on Hed Jet 60's, the Arione, Elite Patao alloy cages and Ultegra SPD-SL Pedals (and after I broke the rear brake line stop - getting fixed tomorrow). Weight here was 17.88lbs

I bought some Zipp 404 clinchers this weekend. Dropped the weight a whopping 37grams to 17.80lbs.

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...1/febceccd.jpg

The goal is to get the bike under the magical 15lb line. Here's the current component list:

Piece Name Weight
Frame Look 585 XL 1385
Brakeset Tektro R750 314
Handlebars Deda 44cm 335
Wheelset Zipp 404 1658

Tires Conti 4000s 420
Tubes Avenir 240
Computer Cateye Strada 46
Bottle Cages Elite Patao Alloy 132
Shifters DA 7800 420
FD DA 73
RD Ultegra 205
Chain DA Hyperglide 264
Crankset Ultegra 6600 853
Stem Cannondale 80mm 140
Saddle Fizik Arione 245
Seatpost Look Ergopost 210
Cassette SRAM 12-26 229
Skewers Specialized 150
Pedals Ultegra 6610 317
Bar Tape Deda 70

And here's the proposed upgrade list, including weights:

New Item Weight
KCNC Brakes 164
3T Team Ergonova 197
Soul 3.0SL 1400
Elite Patao Carbon Cages 52
DA Crankset (Compact) 761
Arione Carbon 169
3T Doric LTD 144
Titanium eBay Skewers 55
DA 7900 Pedals 250
Microtex Tape 63

This adds up to a total weight loss of 1029g, or 2.27lbs, bringing the bike to 15.53lbs. Any suggestions on how to drop that last .53lbs? I know a wheelset would do it, but I'm looking to stay pretty bulletproof/aero/clincher - advice much appreciated.

Also, I'm trying to keep the budget super low. As is, I have net about $697 in the bike (through some good ebay/craigslist dealings).

The following parts have been ordered:

2x Elite Patao Carbon Cages (26g each), $69 shipped

http://www.bikebitsuk.com/images/Eli...tle%20Cage.jpg

eBay Titanium Skewers (55g for the set), $31 shipped

KCNC Brakeset (164g for the pair), $140 shipped

http://sales.light-bikes.com/kcnc/im...ake_parent.jpg

That's it for now. More updates as pieces get ordered, arrive and get installed.

Quel 06-07-11 10:39 AM

What kind of weight weenie has that much steerer tube showing? Chop that down asap!

yzeater 06-07-11 10:40 AM

Oh yeah, forgot about that. Getting cut down tomorrow...

RT 06-07-11 10:44 AM

Cutting the fork tube will help. As far as the rest of the weight, lose a bottle cage and is that housing I see running the entire length of the TT? Zipties?

RT 06-07-11 10:45 AM

And remove the valve stem caps and lock nuts if they are on there. I'm no weight weenie, but on the dark path you travel, every gram counts.

yzeater 06-07-11 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by RTDub (Post 12752587)
is that housing I see running the entire length of the TT? Zipties?

Yeah - briefly mentioned above. The rear brake line stop snapped off the frame - Look gave me a new one, and the shop is replacing it tomorrow.

RT 06-07-11 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by yzeater (Post 12752601)
Yeah - briefly mentioned above. The rear brake line stop snapped off the frame - Look gave me a new one, and the shop is replacing it tomorrow.

Sorry, missed that detail. The path is too dark :D

zitter 06-07-11 10:53 AM

I think a good place to lose weight would be in shifters and cable housing and if you really want to go WW then sanding down the frame and refinishing it can save a lot of weight, and you can probably get a lighter crankset than DA.

ravenmore 06-07-11 11:00 AM

yeah - cranks. I'd look at Sram red or Campy 10 Utratorque. Might be able to pick them up fairly cheap used.

ravenmore 06-07-11 11:01 AM

you can lose about 100 grams with Rival shifters/rear derailer.

yzeater 06-07-11 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by ravenmore (Post 12752686)
yeah - cranks. I'd look at Sram red or Campy 10 Utratorque. Might be able to pick them up fairly cheap used.

Good idea. So a quick googling reveals that the Campy 10sp stuff works just fine with DA 10sp shifters - anyone have evidence to the contrary?

Also, these bottom brackets confuse me. What should I be looking for with regard to it? English, GXP, BB30....

rushbikes 06-07-11 11:31 AM

Cannondale Evo frame. There. That ought to do it.

yzeater 06-07-11 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by rushbikes (Post 12752848)
Cannondale Evo frame. There. That ought to do it.

Hmm...I'm not sure if my budget would like it.

ravenmore 06-07-11 11:35 AM

I have some Campy UltraTorque 10 spd cranks that I have used with both Campy and Shimano. Never had an issue. Wonderful crank too although can be tricky to install. Sram red cranks are super easy to work with though

Stefan. 06-07-11 11:38 AM

Lightweight tubes would make it lose an easy 100+ grams for hardly any cash. Plus it improves ride quality, IMO

yzeater 06-07-11 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Stefan. (Post 12752885)
Lightweight tubes would make it lose an easy 100+ grams for hardly any cash. Plus it improves ride quality, IMO

Any lightweight tubes in the 60-80mm range?

eippo1 06-07-11 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by yzeater (Post 12752734)
Good idea. So a quick googling reveals that the Campy 10sp stuff works just fine with DA 10sp shifters - anyone have evidence to the contrary?

Also, these bottom brackets confuse me. What should I be looking for with regard to it? English, GXP, BB30....

I have a 10 sp Centaur crank with 105 front derailleur and Ultegra shifters on my rain bike and the front shift is smoother than anything I've ever ridden.

ravenmore 06-07-11 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by yzeater (Post 12752892)
Any lightweight tubes in the 60-80mm range?

I use Performance Lunar Light tubes - about 50 grams each. Tires also make a huge difference. I run Schwalbe Ultremo R1's which I got pretty cheap from bonktown.com.

Stefan. 06-07-11 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by yzeater (Post 12752892)
Any lightweight tubes in the 60-80mm range?

http://www.bikeman.com/TU9227.html

Well, to be fair these would still weight in at around 180g, though that would still be saving 60 grams. Not bad for $20

3kmi 06-07-11 12:23 PM

Veloplugs will drop something like 36 grams per wheel off of whatever tape you're running. Plus you get the added bonus of having an easier time mounting tires.

yzeater 06-07-11 12:48 PM

Well, I've had a productive last few minutes.

3t arx pro stem - $25

http://www.excelcycle.com/images/D/3...o-stem-det.jpg

3t doric team seatpost - $40

http://www.e-cycle.co.jp/goodsphoto/DORIC-TEAM-450.jpg

Fizik Arione CX Carbon Rails - $110

http://www.probikeshop.com/images/pr...rbone-Noir.jpg

ilovecycling 06-08-11 08:36 AM

I love that frameset. It's a 2006, right?

It should be a nice build when you're done!

yzeater 06-08-11 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by ilovecycling (Post 12757132)
I love that frameset. It's a 2006, right?

Yup - 2006. It's at the shop now getting the brake line fixed and the steerer tube cut.

rushbikes 06-08-11 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by yzeater (Post 12752859)
Hmm...I'm not sure if my budget would like it.

I'm not sure what kind of budget you're on that warrants Zipp 404 clinchers and DA components, but I wish I were on that kind of budget...

yzeater 06-08-11 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by rushbikes (Post 12757402)
I'm not sure what kind of budget you're on that warrants Zipp 404 clinchers and DA components, but I wish I were on that kind of budget...

The finding good deals kind of budget. As it stands in the last picture + 3T seatpost, stem + Fizik Saddle + Carbon cages + KCNC brakes is a total of $918


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