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Old 07-28-11, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by patentcad
s.a. And i are cervelo brothers. So we may bicker and snipe, but there is no bond stronger. Except for di2 brotherhood, but that's for snooty imbeciles, that don't care if their bike weighs 20lbs, because their minds are so easily impressed by electronic gadgetry.
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Does di2 weigh significantly more than an Ultegra/Rival setup? I'd imagine eliminating the derailleur cables would reduce weight by quite a bit.
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He's a lucky dog.

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I don't know if I posted this already but we're keeping this guy:



He's very well behaved and we've gone on a 3 mile run every day since we had him (last Thursady). Getting him neutered early next week. If the owners ever show up, they probably aren't getting him back. He had SEVERE ear infections and was emaciated and 10lbs underweight. And nobody has been looking for him.
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Originally Posted by twobadfish
Does di2 weigh significantly more than an Ultegra/Rival setup? I'd imagine eliminating the derailleur cables would reduce weight by quite a bit.

Di2 is set at a price point well over Ultegra, and Rival. It's weight should be compared with it's real rivals Red, and SR11, which it costs nearly twice as much as both of them. Here are weights according to CC, Shifters, derailleurs, and cassette (I left out brakes, chains, and cranks, because there are lighter choices available for all):

Red: 701g
Di2: 939g
SR11: 757g

That's over half a pound more than Red.
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Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin
Di2 is set at a price point well over Ultegra, and Rival. It's weight should be compared with it's real rivals Red, and SR11, which it costs nearly twice as much as both of them. Here are weights according to CC, Shifters, derailleurs, and cassette (I left out brakes, chains, and cranks, because there are lighter choices available for all):

Red: 701g
Di2: 939g
SR11: 757g

That's over half a pound more than Red.

That being said Rival shifters, derailleur, and cassette are at 858g, still lighter than Di2, and you could buy 4 complete groups at the Di2 complete group price.
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I like good music my friend. Not poppy cock J. Mayer BS. Some of my favorites, are Pink Floyd, Rage Against The Machine, Tom Petty, Nine Inch Nails, KMFDM, Rolling Stones, Tool, Jackson Browne, White Zombie, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Megadeth, and of course Slayer.
Well Done SA! (though you forgot Alice in Chains)
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today was day 3 of hard riding...total 500ish tss. thur night practice crit. 2nd highest 20 min power of 285 new 60 min PR of 265 norm power 300...I may need to adjust the ftp. or break down and do that darn test. IF 1.121 for 75 min which included a 15 min warm up which is in theory impossible (i think).

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Well Done SA! (though you forgot Alice in Chains)

Correct, I did. Also Pearl Jam's first album "Ten" was quite epic, but the rest of their work was garbage. Have you heard any of the new post Layne AIC? I wasn't very impressed, but I give them credit for trying to move on.
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"Ten" is the benchmark for Pearl Jam; with as good as it is, it is no wonder that everything else after pales in comparison. Why is it that a majority of the bands mentioned all tailed off after their debut albums?
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Pitbulls are really sweet dogs. They are not naturally aggressive in the least. People make them that way.
They are also incredibly tolerant, which is why (before becoming the thugs dog du jour) they were once considered the best dog for kids. I've seen my girl put up with 2-3 year-olds pulling on her tail and ears, falling over her, everything, and she bears it with patience - some "family" dogs would have gotten nippy with half as much annoyance.


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"Ten" is the benchmark for Pearl Jam; with as good as it is, it is no wonder that everything else after pales in comparison. Why is it that a majority of the bands mentioned all tailed off after their debut albums?
It's a high water mark, period.

Side note: I was playing this (on vinyl, naturally) a few months ago when my wife walked in, "what is this crap?" I almost filed for divorce, but recognizing a few of the subsequent (more popular) songs was her saving grace.
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Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin
Correct, I did. Also Pearl Jam's first album "Ten" was quite epic, but the rest of their work was garbage. Have you heard any of the new post Layne AIC? I wasn't very impressed, but I give them credit for trying to move on.
I like Black Turns to Blue a lot. But I like Jerry's solo stuff too. Saw Jerry solo with the new singer for AIC about 9 yrs ago in NOLA at House of Blues. Great show.

and I agree with you about Pearl Jam. How can they possibly have their own station on XM? Their body of work is not that big!
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I will have to disagree, a little. Vs. and Vitalogy have several good tunes on them; not the total album like Ten, but they do have several. After these though, they do head down hill quite fast.
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Just bought a new pair of lenses for my Flak Jackets. I just have one thing to say, Oakley Polarized lenses are awesome!!!
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Also of this post-Ten talk makes me think of pre-Ten -

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Ha! Doesn't look too amused with your picture-taking at the moment . . . "Um, you gonna do something any time soon about this screamin' kid here"?
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I have an addiction::: Vant find a Cannondale R4000 58 for sale.lost an auction,now im hooked. Cant put an ad in the classifieds. To Full...
any info. would be great./...
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Ha! Doesn't look too amused with your picture-taking at the moment . . . "Um, you gonna do something any time soon about this screamin' kid here"?
Exactly - most other dogs would be flippin' out under that kind of stress!
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Bump your post count until you can post in the classifieds and take the '69' out of your screen name, unless you're still in Jr High.
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That's over half a pound more than Red.
Worth it.
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Originally Posted by LowCel
Just bought a new pair of lenses for my Flak Jackets. I just have one thing to say, Oakley Polarized lenses are awesome!!!
Which ones did you get? <EDIT> I just saw your pic in the "recent cycling purchase" thread. Are those fire iridium or the OO Reds?


I just got the 03-987 Grey smoke frames with clear/black iridium photochromic lens. My only regret is that they aren't polarized, but I can see myself wearing these lens for almost all of my riding. They go from 10% to 66% light transmission levels...the only Flak Jacket lens that is darker is the polarized black iridiums

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Originally Posted by chasmm
Which ones did you get? <EDIT> I just saw your pic in the "recent cycling purchase" thread. Are those fire iridium or the OO Reds?


I just got the 03-987 Grey smoke frames with clear/black iridium photochromic lens. My only regret is that they aren't polarized, but I can see myself wearing these lens for almost all of my riding. They go from 10% to 66% light transmission levels...the only Flak Jacket lens that is darker is the polarized black iridiums
I went with the 00 Red lenses. I'm amazed at how much clearer everything looks than with the non-polarized smoked lenses I had before. This is my first pair of polarized lenses but they won't be the last.
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Originally Posted by LowCel
I went with the 00 Red lenses. I'm amazed at how much clearer everything looks than with the non-polarized smoked lenses I had before. This is my first pair of polarized lenses but they won't be the last.
I've got those lenses also, and really like them. I keep going back to my black iridium polarized for most of my riding. However commuting to work is such a crap-shoot with the sun, so I've been using photochromic lenses...the G40 ones. When Oakley announced the clear/black iridium Transitions photochromic's I knew I wanted to give them a try. They haven't been available for purchase from Oakley yet ($145 MSRP) so when I was able to get the full set of glasses, plus case on eBay for $169, I jumped on it. They just arrived today, so I haven't been able to ride with them yet. One thing I found a little odd...they came with a "nano-clear hydrophobic" pen that you can use to put the water repellent coating on them...that coating seems to be built-in to the other Oakley lens.

I just wish they could have them in polarized...oh well, I'm sure that'll be their next "improvement" which will mean another purchase.
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I've got those lenses also, and really like them. I keep going back to my black iridium polarized for most of my riding. However commuting to work is such a crap-shoot with the sun, so I've been using photochromic lenses...the G40 ones. When Oakley announced the clear/black iridium Transitions photochromic's I knew I wanted to give them a try. They haven't been available for purchase from Oakley yet ($145 MSRP) so when I was able to get the full set of glasses, plus case on eBay for $169, I jumped on it. They just arrived today, so I haven't been able to ride with them yet. One thing I found a little odd...they came with a "nano-clear hydrophobic" pen that you can use to put the water repellent coating on them...that coating seems to be built-in to the other Oakley lens.

I just wish they could have them in polarized...oh well, I'm sure that'll be their next "improvement" which will mean another purchase.
I thought that was a little odd too, the 00 Reds came with that little pen as well. It's easy enough to apply but I'm hoping it lasts as long as the coating on the old lenses. If not you can buy a larger container of the coating for $20 from Oakley.
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Originally Posted by twobadfish
There are a lot of dogs at the no-kill shelters around here too... chihuahuas the dogs nobody wants.
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