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Old 06-17-11, 07:24 PM
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My Roubaix frame is eat up with chain jumps from my Ultegra 6700. My Sram Red F3 has a chain catcher...good thing to, it jumps just as bad as the 6700. No Di2 for me, I don't want to mess with batteries. I'd rather mess with the chain every now and then, plus it gives me an excuse for falling back...."Oh, my chain dropped. That's why I fell back".
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Old 06-17-11, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by zigmeister View Post
Didn't Schleck also have a drivetrain issue in the TT? He ended up jumping on his road bike to finish...too much. WTF. It is like the $5M USD F1 car that goes around the track 1 time and blows itself up. I don't get why some basic drivetrain stuff isn't working for some guys? Schleck literally went about 200M, and the drivetrain stopped working??? Could never find out what the problem was, because at first, they tried to put the chain back on, and then he started to get a push and pedal, then it did it again...then the guy ran and grabbed the other bike and he jumped on that.

I don't think Cancellera dropped his chain at the Tour De Suisse TT, he had some mis-shift screw-up, then he started going again right at the start.
So not only did it screw up, but it couldn't be fixed without a bike swap? That's some improvement over a dropped chain.
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Old 06-17-11, 07:27 PM
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My next Major BF Flip Flop will be to buy a bike with Red.















But you all know this.









Please God, don't let the Holy Sisters of the Order of Dura Achee see this post.
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Old 06-17-11, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Nerull View Post
Maybe the best rule in cycling is don't let the Schleck brothers near your equipment.
Or probably more correctly don't let their mechanic near your gear.
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Old 06-17-11, 07:49 PM
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Despite reading this post again, I'm still buying my SR 11 speed groupo tomorrow.
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Old 06-17-11, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by slushlover2 View Post
Despite reading this post again, I'm still buying my SR 11 speed groupo tomorrow.
Utter Failissimmo
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Old 06-17-11, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
Utter Failissimmo
Translation: "I so wish Di2 was available in 11s."
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Old 06-17-11, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
Utter Failissimmo
I'm about to order a Chorus 12-29 cassette, which will run on my standard Super Record 11 RD:

12,13,14,15,16,17,19,21,23,26, and 29

That's straight up climbing goodness right there.
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Old 06-17-11, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
My next Major BF Flip Flop will be to buy a bike with Red.
It would make more sense to go to SR.
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Old 06-17-11, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by teterider View Post
Well, I'll add this off-topic comment on the stage.

I love watching a mountain finish when these guys aren't doping (or doping hard). Did you see the difference here over years past.
These guys were digging deep to go 8 mph up the climb into Lichtenstein. They were smeared out over that mountain and every one of them was hurting. There were no sudden bursts of clenbuterol boosted roid-rage acceleration on that final climb.
totally agree!
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Old 06-17-11, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by kimconyc View Post
I'm about to order a Chorus 12-29 cassette, which will run on my standard Super Record 11 RD:

12,13,14,15,16,17,19,21,23,26, and 29

That's straight up climbing goodness right there.
i also agree with that. this would be my ideal setup for climbing as well. to bad i have Record/Chours 10sp!!
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Old 06-18-11, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by max5480 View Post
you guys need to hang out in the single speed forum and end this groupo bickering.
Why, do the fixters need more flames for crippling themselves with SS?

Originally Posted by Waxbytes View Post
It all went wrong when we gave up the friction for the click.
Does your tag (Uphill into a headwind..) reflect your preferred approach; doing it hard? Cause the way the chain jumps when you make a shift on a pre-HG cluster is such fun, like having to sit to shift your DT levers.
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Old 06-18-11, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
My next Major BF Flip Flop will be to buy a bike with Red....
everyone makes mistakes, even the pope!
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Old 06-18-11, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
My next Major BF Flip Flop will be to buy a bike with Red.















But you all know this.









Please God, don't let the Holy Sisters of the Order of Dura Achee see this post.
It is inevitable, I'm glad you know yourself well enough to make this observation.
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Old 06-18-11, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
One thing I'll say for that front derailleur on Di2 vs. any mechanical derailleur, I don't think it is quite capable of throwing a chain. Seems to work flawlessly, chain drops are cause by front derailleur over-shift, the sensors on Di2 don't allow that.

My 7900 front derailleur did that too. I have chain catchers on my two road bikes now., but I don't think you really need it with Di2.

Still. Better dead than Red.
A couple of thoughts/questions:
a) Are you saying that electronic or computing devices operate as desired 100% of the time?
b) Have you seen the movie The Terminator? Sure, it starts out with Di2 "helping" people ride....
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Old 06-18-11, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
Why is it a design problem and not an adjustment problem ?
Front derailleurs have such a simple task, and have been around a long time. What did they do wrong ?
It's not a design problem.

This forum is a lot like what my Mom used to say about her soap operas. If we went on vacation and she missed them for a couple of weeks it was never a problem. The same people who have no idea what they are talking about are rambling on about subjects they don't understand.

BTW...I run Rival and Red. I run 7800 chains on both with Shimano 11-21 casettes on both. My choice and I loaded up on 7800 chains after the last redesign. No issues at all. And I love customizing my shifter and brake handles.

I rode Di2 back when it was cold with winter gloves on. LOL.

The best part about Bikeforums is the unending defense of what you have on your bike. It's good for a lot of laughs.
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Old 06-18-11, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr 53x11 View Post
My Roubaix frame is eat up with chain jumps from my Ultegra 6700. My Sram Red F3 has a chain catcher...good thing to, it jumps just as bad as the 6700. No Di2 for me, I don't want to mess with batteries. I'd rather mess with the chain every now and then, plus it gives me an excuse for falling back...."Oh, my chain dropped. That's why I fell back".
Sounds like you need to find a good mechanic and let them teach you how to adjust a FD. Neither of those drivetrains should drop the chain all that often.
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I blew a chain drop on my crappy as hell FSA FD on a climb. Did I mention I hate FSA stuff. Fluffy chi-chi La-La graphics and not much else.
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Originally Posted by max5480 View Post
you guys need to hang out in the single speed forum and end this groupo bickering.
then you'll appreciate the value of gears and stop taking them for granted.
But then we'd have to buy those goofy skinny jeans and even goofier shoes. Those guys come in the shop and we are all wondering where they work. We figure their parent's basement.

Can you be a professional player of video games?

BTW...I used to love to pass guys on gear bikes while riding my single speed steel behemoth.
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But then we'd have to buy those goofy skinny jeans and even goofier shoes. Those guys come in the shop and we are all wondering where they work. We figure their parent's basement.

Can you be a professional player of video games?

BTW...I used to love to pass guys on gear bikes while riding my single speed steel behemoth.
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That might be the funniest thing I have ever seen. It reminds me of the old Monty Pyton bit, "Upper Class Twit of the Year"....

Loved the text bit at the beginning.
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Of course, the simplest fix to sram red is to NOT use their POS front derailleur. Sram's front derailleurs have sucked since version 1 of force came out. I've been using a campy chorus FD since I started using sram (2007). Only chain drop I ever experienced was from crappy extralite chainrings. Once I ditched those (mid-2007), I never had another chain drop.
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I used to drop chains with my Tiagra setup. 6700, none yet about 600 miles.

Essentially, works like this Ultegra > Tiagra = Red
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Originally Posted by cyclebycle13 View Post
Of course, the simplest fix to sram red is to NOT use their POS front derailleur. Sram's front derailleurs have sucked since version 1 of force came out. I've been using a campy chorus FD since I started using sram (2007). Only chain drop I ever experienced was from crappy extralite chainrings. Once I ditched those (mid-2007), I never had another chain drop.
Hmm... Funny. The 2011 Red FD on my Lynskey is the best FD I've ever used. Of course it actually took setting the limit screws and getting the cable tension right...

I keep forgetting that "you have to adjust it correctly" equates with "POS" here on the interwebz.
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