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For those who use LOOK and SPD

Old 06-16-11, 11:48 PM
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For those who use LOOK and SPD

I am thinking I need a better road pedal so I am wanting to try a LOOK style pedal.

Last year I got the hang of SPD, enough to where I was comfortable going double sided SPD on my MTB this year. I've nearly fallen on the MTB this year and luckily, I've been quick enough to clip out.

For those who ride both, have you had any problems getting out of either pedal? I'm a little worried going to LOOK will screw me up on the MTB. I've never tried the LOOK system, so it may be easier than I'm thinking. Just wondering before I go and drop $150 on pedals and shoes.

Also, what LOOK pedal do you guys like for around $80 max? I'm looking at a Keo.. not sure which pedal yet.
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Old 06-17-11, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by djlarroc View Post
I'm a little worried going to LOOK will screw me up on the MTB.
Don't worry, it won't. The technique is the same, except the release force is usually a little higher on road pedals.

Why limit yourself to LOOK pedals? They're okay, but Shimano and Time also make very good pedal systems, and then there's Speedplay as well.
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If you ask at your LBS look and I think Time also make a learner's clip in pedal, with lower retension than the race pedals that are designed for beginners. You can also set up conventional pedals pretty loose when you are learning, but I wouldn't be too apprehensive. If you can, practice clipping in and out between a parked car and a wall (So you can balance with out falling over)

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Old 06-17-11, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by scirocco View Post
Don't worry, it won't. The technique is the same, except the release force is usually a little higher on road pedals.

Why limit yourself to LOOK pedals? They're okay, but Shimano and Time also make very good pedal systems, and then there's Speedplay as well.
Thanks.. well, I'm glad to hear the technique is the same. That would keep the "muscle memory" consistent. I thought there was a difference in clipping in/out on LOOK style. Even if clipping out of road is a bit harder, that's ok too. For the most part, you have a bit more time to prepare to clip out on a road bike, than on a slippery switchback on an MTB

..and I'm also considering other pedals, such as SPDL.. i know a lot of people like those as well. Speedplay, and Time - have not looked into them. Yet.
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Old 06-17-11, 09:28 AM
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I have SPDs on my MTB and Looks on my roadbike. Same situation you're referring to. I wouldn't worry. The motions of clipping in and out at the pretty much the same. If anything it'll take a few rides to get used to flipping the Looks over since you'll be used to double sided entry on the SPDs but it's not a big deal.

The Shimano and Time pedals are similar to the Looks, but I have not tried those. I would like to try some Speedplays to see what the deal is. I have heard both good things and bad, I guess it could be a matter of personal preference.
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Old 06-17-11, 09:47 AM
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I ride SPD SL on one road bike, old school 1st generation Look on my old road bike and different types of SPDs on mountain bike, hybrid and tourer. I think they're all pretty similar, SPDs seem a little easier to get in and out of (i don't mean the tension, which is adjustable, i mean the ease of locating) but it's all basically the same. Once you can use one type you can use them all. I think my favourite is the SPD SL.
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Old 06-17-11, 10:05 AM
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I own cars with automatic, paddleshift, and manual transmissions. OP, you'll get used to the slight differences. Just takes a bit of practice and you won't think twice about hopping onto your road or MTB.
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SPD-SL is a re-engineer of the LOOK design, with just about all the LOOK problems fixed. Walking on the cleats doesn't damage the surface that locks the cleat into the shoe, walking is less unstable, and the cleats don't squeak.

You can adjust release tension. It will go pretty light. Not quite MTB light but low enough so people like me with bad ankles can clip out.

SPD-SL and LOOK are not as easy to clip in as MTB pedals. But you'll get used to them.
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I have the Look Keo 2 Max Carbons and have used the Keo Classics as well. I can say the Classics are geared toward beginners because they are much easier to clip in an out of, ie lower retention at low spring setting. Even at the lowest setting, the Max Carbons take significantly more effort to rotate your foot and clip out of.

Of course, this leads to adv/disadv being so easy to clip out of... but you can tighten the spring tension to your liking.
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Thanks for the replies guys!

Well, I just got back from 2 LBS'.

I looked at the LOOKs , Keo classic and Keo plus, and the Ultegra SPD SL Ultegra & 105s.

I noticed the Shimanos have a much bigger platform. Does that make quite a difference in cycling?
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I have the Keo 2 Max Carbons. As much as I wanted to support my LBS, Ebay had (and continues to have) them at 50% retail.
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Old 06-19-11, 07:25 PM
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Well I got a deal on a set of shoes and pedals.

Bontrager RXL carbon shoes and Keo 2 Max Carbons. $165 on CL.

Now, just need to try them out.
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Old 06-20-11, 12:37 AM
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IMO looks dont squeek if your cleats are properly adjusted. Keo 2 max are awesome. and they seem to be lasting longer than the black shimanoes I used to own the one under 105.
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Originally Posted by ericm979 View Post
SPD-SL is a re-engineer of the LOOK design, with just about all the LOOK problems fixed. Walking on the cleats doesn't damage the surface that locks the cleat into the shoe, walking is less unstable, and the cleats don't squeak. You can adjust release tension. It will go pretty light. Not quite MTB light but low enough so people like me with bad ankles can clip out.

SPD-SL and LOOK are not as easy to clip in as MTB pedals. But you'll get used to them.
FWIW, I have been riding Look since they invented the clipless pedal and have never had any of these issues. Currently on blades...prior was on Keo Carbon.

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I have the LOOK KEO CARBON pedals. I've had these for about two years with no issues at all. Great pedals!! I used SPD before I got these, and like these better. No problems getting in or out, adjustable tension, and they look cool. Get a deal on them off Ebay and enjoy!!
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Originally Posted by Nick Bain View Post
IMO looks dont squeek if your cleats are properly adjusted. Keo 2 max are awesome. and they seem to be lasting longer than the black shimanoes I used to own the one under 105.
I always used shimano spd-sl pedals,just for the hell of it I switched to look keo 2 max.I will never go back lighter and easier to get out of in a hurry.Cleats are not as durable,but thats the price you pay not such a bad thing.
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Originally Posted by willpower View Post
I always used shimano spd-sl pedals,just for the hell of it I switched to look keo 2 max.I will never go back lighter and easier to get out of in a hurry.Cleats are not as durable,but thats the price you pay not such a bad thing.
Yeah i noticed the cleats i got look pretty used up already. The guy said he only had them for a few mos.
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