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Upgrading From Trek 1000

Old 06-19-11, 07:51 AM
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Upgrading From Trek 1000

It's been a little under 2 months since I bought my used 2003 Trek 1000 on Craigslist for around $300. Since then I'm out everyday, increasing mileage, cadence, etc. I really love this sport and I want to upgrade my setup.

I'm looking in the $1400 range and I would like to have a 105 group set. I'm looking at the Cannondale CAAD10 and they all have Gossamer Pro crank sets. I'm a little confused about this as I would think the cranks would be the most important piece of the group set, and this is the only cog (besides the bottom bracket) that is not 105, which means an almost automatic upgrade in the near future right?

I'm also considering the Trek 2.1, Felt85/75, Giant Defy1.

Can anybody shed some light on the Gossamer and my new bike selection in general? Thanks so much!
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Old 06-19-11, 10:29 AM
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I have a Giant Defy Advanced 3 that I got for just under $1500 with 105. If you shop around you can probably get a bike that retails for $2,000 or more for your price range. Look for older 2010 or 2011 models (2012 models are about to come out and the older models should get a discount), and a little negotiating doesn't hurt anyone.
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I just picked up the Trek 2.1 and love it! Over 100 miles in a week so far. No regrets here! Go with what fits though!
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I've ridden a Trek 2.1 and 2.3. Pretty nice bikes. Are you looking for something as light as possible or what?

Are you set on getting a NEW bike or would you be open to CraigsList? $1400 on CL can get you a pretty friggin' nice bike (but of course you need to know what you're doing a little bit more, have more patience, etc.).
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Re: CL route... here are a few options

http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/2449652864.html
http://newyork.craigslist.org/fct/bik/2449255891.html
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Originally Posted by Dean7 View Post
I've ridden a Trek 2.1 and 2.3. Pretty nice bikes. Are you looking for something as light as possible or what?

Are you set on getting a NEW bike or would you be open to CraigsList? $1400 on CL can get you a pretty friggin' nice bike (but of course you need to know what you're doing a little bit more, have more patience, etc.).
I'm definitely not set on a new bike, although it would be awesome to pull the plastic off the tires, I understand the value of the CL route. I've been scouring CL actually looking for a 52 cm ride in any of the choices I posted above.

If I went the new route I think I would go with the CAAD 10, from all the reading I'm doing, the frame on this bike is of great quality, weight and performance and I probably wouldn't have to do much in terms of upgrades. I have patience, but I also have a triathlon in 7 weeks. I'm going to keep looking and hope something falls my way on CL or in a LBS.
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That Pinarello is a great deal!!! I wish I was 2 inches taller
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All I can say is that the CAAD10 is an awesome bike.
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Originally Posted by Shuagster View Post
All I can say is that the CAAD10 is an awesome bike.
You have one? What's up with the crank set? Is the Gossamer on par with the 105? Better? Worse?
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Yes, I have one. I can't say if the gossamer is better or worse than the 105 since I have never ridden a bike with a 105 crank. But the bike is great. When I was on the search for a bike, I test rode a CF Madone and a SuperSix, but was not able to feel the difference from the CAAD to the CF frames since I had never ridden a road bike before and it was a ride around the block. But I can tell you that I rode other alu bikes and the CAAD was the best that felt and fit. But as most will tell you here, get the bike that fits and feels the best.
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Originally Posted by bsc77 View Post
It's been a little under 2 months since I bought my used 2003 Trek 1000 on Craigslist for around $300. Since then I'm out everyday, increasing mileage, cadence, etc. I really love this sport and I want to upgrade my setup.

I'm looking in the $1400 range and I would like to have a 105 group set. I'm looking at the Cannondale CAAD10 and they all have Gossamer Pro crank sets. I'm a little confused about this as I would think the cranks would be the most important piece of the group set, and this is the only cog (besides the bottom bracket) that is not 105, which means an almost automatic upgrade in the near future right?

I'm also considering the Trek 2.1, Felt85/75, Giant Defy1.

Can anybody shed some light on the Gossamer and my new bike selection in general? Thanks so much!
the reason the caad has a FSA crank is because it has a BB30 BB and Shimano doesnt make a BB30 crank. there is no reason you would need to upgrade the crank and even if you did i doubt you would be able to tell a difference.

imo this Litespeed M1 w/ Sram Rival would be the way to go for 1400 bucks. it has a carbon frame, full Sram Rival group (imo thats one step above 105) and Aksium wheels.
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/fr...bike-9479.html
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Agree....The Litespeed M1 w/ Sram Rival is a very attractive deal.
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The gossamer crank is FSA's vanilla "just get the job done" type piece. Not junk although not on par with 105 in my opinion. 105 is the workhorse group from shimano with excellent durability and trickle down technologies from both ult. and DA.
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Originally Posted by ThinLine View Post
The gossamer crank is FSA's vanilla "just get the job done" type piece. Not junk although not on par with 105 in my opinion. 105 is the workhorse group from shimano with excellent durability and trickle down technologies from both ult. and DA.
i dont agree with that. ive owned both and honestly there isnt a big performance difference between the two. i got rid of my gossamer to shave weight and went with a bb30 Force crank. for someone this new to riding though there is just no way he would notice a difference between the two. it wouldnt be worth the upgrade and imo would be a lateral move. i wouldnt want to put a non bb30 crank on a bb30 frame period.
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i dont agree with that. ive owned both and honestly there isnt a big performance difference between the two. i got rid of my gossamer to shave weight and went with a bb30 Force crank. for someone this new to riding though there is just no way he would notice a difference between the two. it wouldnt be worth the upgrade and imo would be a lateral move. i wouldnt want to put a non bb30 crank on a bb30 frame period.
I was only asking b/c it seemed odd to me (and my knowledge is very limited) to have 105 components all over except for the crank, which I would think would be the most important component. Is it not?
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The crank itself is the centerpiece component - esthetically. When it comes to function and performance I can't detect much difference from one to the other.

Now with bottom brackets there are performance gains to be had.

You understand the BB30 concept? This is an oversized bottom bracket, designed to be stiffer (more efficient) than most. If you install adapters to accommodate regular crank/bottom bracket set-ups some of the BB30 qualities might be lost. In other words to get the most from your CAAD10 stick with the Gossamer or upgrade to a SL-K, for instance (incidentally I have one for sale )
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Hmmm. This looks like possibly not a bad deal:

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/fr...bike-9925.html
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Originally Posted by jan nikolajsen View Post
The crank itself is the centerpiece component - esthetically. When it comes to function and performance I can't detect much difference from one to the other.

Now with bottom brackets there are performance gains to be had.

You understand the BB30 concept? This is an oversized bottom bracket, designed to be stiffer (more efficient) than most. If you install adapters to accommodate regular crank/bottom bracket set-ups some of the BB30 qualities might be lost. In other words to get the most from your CAAD10 stick with the Gossamer or upgrade to a SL-K, for instance (incidentally I have one for sale )
I had no idea that BB30 was a standard, I assumed it was just a size, after reading an article about it, I get it. That being said, I still don't get why Shimano wouldn't be making a BB30 crank set at this point.
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..I still don't get why Shimano wouldn't be making a BB30 crank set at this point.
Campagnolo neither.
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Originally Posted by jan nikolajsen View Post
Campagnolo neither.
It sounds like BB30 is going to be industry standard pretty soon, this will definitely be an interesting story to follow.
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The Gossamer cranks are probably stiffer and nicer than 105 when pedaling, but probably won't shift as well. You could buy Shimano chainrings, or upgrade to a BB30 SRAM crank, but these could be well down the road. I would have no hesitation buying/riding the bike as is. I also would, under no circumstances, buy a 105 crank and use an adapter (unless you /really/ want to have everything match), as it would negate the whole purpose of buying a BB30 frame.

I might also look at the Specialized Allez Comp. Very similar ride to the CAAD 10, but with Sram Apex instead of 105. These are (IMHO) the two nicest aluminum bikes out there now that the S1 is no more, so unless you are upgrading to a carbon model, one of those two would be my choice. Although the BMC Streetfire might have something to say about that, if you can find one.
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I was just offered a brand new Giant Defy 1 with full Shimano 105 components for $800. It's brand new, never been ridden. Anyone have any thoughts on this one? It's a great deal for sure, I've heard mixed reviews about Giants in general. But $800 compared to $1400 (plus tax), can I pass this up?
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Giant Defy 1 for $800

Buy it now!
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Giant Defy 1 for $800

Buy it now!
That easy huh?
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Originally Posted by bsc77 View Post
It's been a little under 2 months since I bought my used 2003 Trek 1000 on Craigslist for around $300. Since then I'm out everyday, increasing mileage, cadence, etc. I really love this sport and I want to upgrade my setup.

I'm looking in the $1400 range and I would like to have a 105 group set. I'm looking at the Cannondale CAAD10 and they all have Gossamer Pro crank sets. I'm a little confused about this as I would think the cranks would be the most important piece of the group set, and this is the only cog (besides the bottom bracket) that is not 105, which means an almost automatic upgrade in the near future right?

I'm also considering the Trek 2.1, Felt85/75, Giant Defy1.

Can anybody shed some light on the Gossamer and my new bike selection in general? Thanks so much!
If you want to "upgrade"? CAAD10 for sure.

And yes, a crankset would be a possible upgrade later, but if you wait until it fails, maybe you can get a
credit towards the purchase of a new Shimano crankset (105 at least) when it's replaced under warranty.
Otherwise, just about every other bit on that bike is dang good and should last you years.
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