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Had my first real crash, looking for advice

Old 06-19-11, 11:47 AM
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Had my first real crash, looking for advice

We have a thing going on here where some roads are exclusively open for cyclists on Sunday mornings. On the road I was using there were two lanes - one lane for traffic in each direction. Since the lanes are fairly wide, there is space for 2 or 3 bikes in one direction.

What usually happens is that slower people will ride on the right side within a lane and faster people will travel on the left side of that lane. However there are no official rules and you see all type of behaviour where some ride in any way they want. On this road there is no speed limit for the cyclists and you can see all type of riders from the TT guy with aerobars to the 3 year old taking his first strides.

I was going at around 22mph on the fast side of the lane (on the left side of that lane) in a straight line when a guy on the right side of the lane going below 10mph suddenly turned left without any checking back as he attempted what looked like a left turn into a perpendicular road. I had the time to shout "Watch out" before I crashed into his front wheel and went flying to my left.

My health damage is not too bad, a somehow painful/sprained left shoulder (will probably hurt more tomorrow) that took most of the fall and some road rash on my elbow and thumb.

My bike visible damage is a ripped handlebar tape on the left side, scratches and a right shifter that went off its alignment (SRAM Rival). The shifter broke the part that holds on the screw on the right side of the shifter and went off its alignment. I was able to replace the shifter/brake back and it is working fairly normal. There is obviously now a broken part that was retaining the shifter screw. Since the shifter is working fine, I don't plan to replace it just yet.

The other guy did not appeared to have any damage and did not went down.

My questions now:

This is a full carbon bike including the handlebar and stern. Since this crash occurred at a fairly high speed, I am concerned for the integrity of the carbon. Is there any way to assess the actual damage to the carbon?

I did not took any contacts of the other guy as he quickly went on his way. I have part of the blame as I could have signalled my passing although very few people do so as there is an expectation of riders behaving in a predictable way. Should I have taken his contact and attempted to recuperate the cost of repairs? Do you think I would have a case based on the information I provided?

Thanks for any input.
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Old 06-19-11, 11:51 AM
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Riding is kind of an at your own risk type thing. So in my opinion no, taking his contact information would not be necessary.

As for the bike, take it to a reputable shop in your area and ask them to give it an inspection. That's about all you can do. Just be glad that both parties are alright, if anything he could probably have sued you since you were the passing rider.
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1) If you're concerned about the frame, take it to a trusted shop for inspection.

2) I don't think you'd have much of a case for anything. Yeah, he shoulda checked his six before attempting to cross lanes; but in mixed company like that, you should be traveling at a more reasonable speed for the conditions. Chalk it up to '**** happens'.

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Old 06-19-11, 12:24 PM
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Yeah I do feel fairly lucky in my bad luck as I would have expected more damage from that type of crash. I do adapt my speed to incoming conditions such as children, large group of riders etc but feel fairly safe when approaching other roadies. Looks like I will have to be more careful in the future.
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The guy was out riding recreationally and probably never imagined someone would be passing him that quickly. On one hand, he probably feels you should have announced you were passing, or he assumes you were riding too fast since you couldn't stop in time. You probably feel he should have checked to make sure no one was coming before turning in front of you. I can see both sides. You broke the "law" but what he did was just dumb... you never turn in your car without checking blind spots, right?

You should definitely get the bike checked out, especially the bars. Carbon bars are very tricky if they take a blunt force on the side.
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Old 06-19-11, 12:43 PM
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Would collision damage to a bike like this (assuming it was more extensive/expensive) more typically be covered under a homeowner's policy, a vehicle policy of some kind, or not at all?

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Originally Posted by kevin_stevens View Post
Would collision damage to a bike like this (assuming it was more extensive/expensive) more typically be covered under a homeowner's policy, a vehicle policy of some kind, or not at all?

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Old 06-19-11, 12:55 PM
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Beat the clown to a bloody pulp with your frame pump and leave the scene quickly.
He will never pull a "crazy Ivan"again.
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Just another example of why I'll take my chances on the road with motor vehicles.

Inexperienced riders are the single biggest threat to safe riding.

OP should have announced his pass and the slower rider should have signaled his intention.

The title of this thread could be "When Morans Collide"
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Another vote to have your frame checked at your LBS if you're worried, but also remember CF is a stronger material than you'd believe from reading BF posts.

I also feel that this is why riding fast on MUPs/all-comers street closure type deals is a no-no. It's reasonable to expect that commuters and roadies would think to check before making a turn, but someone who's just out having fun? Not so much. Your front wheel is your responsibility - good thing to remember in a race, on the road or on a MUP IMO.
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Can you get that personal injury bike attorney to prescribe a foam collar and collect damages?
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Good luck with your carbon frame, hope it all turns out well.

On the note of recreational cycling, I use the same rule that's applied on the ski slope, "person in front is always in the right of way", this makes it safe for everyone trying to share the road. Best of luck. . .
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Firstly glad you're ok.

Secondly, get the bike checked, unwrap the bars and get them checked.

Thirdly, you mention seeing three year olds and then you mention doing 22, you're lucky you didn't take a kid out. If you want to train use a road, it's safer for all. Even though this road sounds wide I don't see how it can be safe if there are no specific rules or guidelines. Frankly it sounds as dangerous as an MUP.
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