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Old 06-20-11 | 12:28 PM
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Follow the money. FSA cranks are less expensive than Shimano, and the average rider isn't very discerning or experienced with the relative attributes of different cranksets.
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Old 06-20-11 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Palomar01
Had a Gossamer on my old Fuji Roubaix and never had a problem even though I rode the crap out of that bike.

I don't understand this. If FSA is so bad why do so many major brands use their cranks as a substitute for Shimano? Even many high end bikes put equivalent FSA cranks on an otherwise full Shimano component group.

I'm not defending FSA. I like Shimano myself. Just wondering...
I'd say "cost".

As stated before, their lower end stuff=garbage. I can't speak for their higher end cranks.
And, yes: Cannondale trusts their rings enough to spec them on Hollograms.
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Old 06-20-11 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by v70cat
You can get a Dura Ace crank for $400 I think it is the best crank for the money though Sram cranks are the same money and would be my choice if I was using Sram.

https://www.competitivecyclist.com/pr...-5077.6.1.html
Dang! I was ready to pop down my money for a FC-7950 ... but that link is for a 170mm crank.
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Old 06-20-11 | 12:44 PM
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Rofl at people talking about slk.

I ran sl-k light crank, no problems with sram red fd-rd-shifters. I moved to a red crank also for the lower profile.

The only shimano crank i would consider is the duraace, fugly, but strong. But sl-k light and sram red are nearly identical stiffness as duraace testsnhave shown. They all shift the same. Oh wait, shimano needs adapters for bb30, guess i wont run them anytime, if ever as ling as i have bb30.
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Old 06-20-11 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by yongkun
my FSA gossamer gaves me lots of problem, glad i changed to the DA7900 cranks. i used their SLKlight cranks, not problem. But the gossamer is rubbish.
My FSA Gossamer has been nothing but trouble, too. I wear 9-speed chains out more quickly than 10-speed chains on an Ultegra crank. Had to replace the chain rings on the FSA.
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Old 06-20-11 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by zigmeister
Rofl at people talking about slk.

I ran sl-k light crank, no problems with sram red fd-rd-shifters. I moved to a red crank also for the lower profile.

The only shimano crank i would consider is the duraace, fugly, but strong. But sl-k light and sram red are nearly identical stiffness as duraace testsnhave shown. They all shift the same. Oh wait, shimano needs adapters for bb30, guess i wont run them anytime, if ever as ling as i have bb30.
Ultegra SL...+30 grams over the Dura Ace 7800, but stiffer and IMO, a whole lot prettier.
Shifting is about the same between the two (with the nod going to 7800 for smoothness).
I have an Ultegra SL crankset with Dura Ace 7800 rings which gives me the best of both.
But, I will be changing the ring to a Shimano Yumeya ring which shifts better than even
7800 and retains the SL's original rings' looks. Plus, it's 10 grams lighter so in the end,
I'll end up with a crankset that looks like an Ultegra SL, but will be 20 grams lighter and
will shift better than Dura Ace (final weight should be an 790g VS DA 780g).
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Old 06-20-11 | 01:45 PM
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Old 06-20-11 | 02:08 PM
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OP - the low end FSA cranks are not especially incredible... I'd stay away.

The higher end cranks are just fine, they don't shift as smoothly as Shimano cranks do, but neither does anything else.

I use FSA bars on every one of my bikes, use FSA stems on 1/2 my bikes, and use posts/brakes/etc frequently enough... they are all find and do the job reliably.

Again, the low-end FSA parts are just that... I wouldn't expect them to be the equal of nice kit.

SRAM - great parts, they are the cranks on all my bikes, the FR/RD/brakes/etc on all my bikes - I swear by them. The front shifting isn't as smooth as Shimano, but the pluses of SRAM far out-weigh the minuses. 100% approved by this guy.
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Old 06-20-11 | 02:35 PM
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If you are moving towards SRAM, use their crank set. You mention weight as part of the issue. What kind of wheels are you using and how much do they weigh? Is it hilly where you live? You mention a 53/39 so I would think not toooo hilly and then how much of a difference is the weight savings really going to mean? I notice a bigger difference in bike performance when I put on my 1300 gram wheel set.

I would think that a larger part of your decision should be based on shifter brifter design differences between SRAM and Shimano. Don't ask me, I use Campy but I would choose SRAM for the shifter brifter design over Shimano. No knock on Shimano as their stuff works well.
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Old 06-20-11 | 02:38 PM
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OP, out of curiosity, did you go rival, force or red?
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Old 06-20-11 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by svtmike
At least the low end FSA cranks are compatible with Shimano BBs so you can get away from the lousy FSA BBs. But when you get to the SL-K level you are locked into their BB too. And let's not forget the special socket you'll need to get the left crank arm on and off. Bleah.
All the research I did said that Shimano and FSA BBs are compatible just like you say. I attempted to replace the BB in my crappy Gossamer with a 105 BB, but when I went to push the crank spindle through the BB, it wouldn't go. I tried pretty hard and there was no way it was going through, so I just put the megaexo BB back on. I'm not sure if I was doing something wrong or what.
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Old 06-20-11 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ILUVUK
All the research I did said that Shimano and FSA BBs are compatible just like you say. I attempted to replace the BB in my crappy Gossamer with a 105 BB, but when I went to push the crank spindle through the BB, it wouldn't go. I tried pretty hard and there was no way it was going through, so I just put the megaexo BB back on. I'm not sure if I was doing something wrong or what.
It is a tight fit, but it works. I did that with the Gossamer crank that came stock on my TriCross after the bottom bracket gave up the ghost after all of 1400 miles. This year I switched it to Ultegra 6650 to match my riding better and the fit with the bottom bracket was (of course) much better.
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Old 06-20-11 | 03:31 PM
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My Ultegra SL crank is stiffer and shifts much better than the FSA Gossamer it replaced. Love my Red crank (and Red/Force mix group) on my new build. So to answer your question...
Originally Posted by Spookeay Bird
How many of you are feeling the SRAM/FSA creep as of late.
SRAM? Yes. FSA? Not even.
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Old 06-20-11 | 03:40 PM
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I am one of the (apparent) few who have also had no issues whatsoever with FSA components. Maybe my guads aren't as massive as those of you who are constantly breaking FSA stuffs.

Maybe just get Di2 to fix it all
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Old 06-20-11 | 03:47 PM
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I am one of the (apparent) few who have also had no issues whatsoever with FSA components. Maybe my guads aren't as massive as those of you who are constantly breaking FSA stuffs.

Maybe just get Di2 to fix it all


Thank you.
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Old 06-20-11 | 03:49 PM
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How does Di2 fix crappy bearings?
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Old 06-20-11 | 03:58 PM
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I just bought some SRAM stuff - APEX cranks and GPX BB. The box clearly said Made in Taiwan, so I don't buy the made in USA line. The stuff works well and after reading these posts I'm glad I didn't opt for FSA, which I was considering. I ru ncampy 10 speed and I get smooth enough shifting with the APEX rings.
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Old 06-20-11 | 04:42 PM
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Switched from an FSA Gossamer to a Shimano 5600 HTII, and have never looked back. FSA cranks just cannot compare to Shimano. The Gossamer crank arm would come loose all the time and make a little creaking noise sometimes.

I think manufacturers use the equivalent FSA crank on their bikes because they might get them for a lot cheaper than the Shimano one.
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Old 06-20-11 | 06:20 PM
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I'll bet shimano has some high overhead like 10mil Ceo's and thats why its more expensive. But it is trustworthy. Maybe.
You win the most ignorant post of the thread.

What should the CEO of a billion dollar public company be paid?
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Old 06-21-11 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by svtmike
How does Di2 fix crappy bearings?
I am referring to two other threads going on right now where Di2 seems to be the shizz that makes everything better. It was totally tongue in cheek.
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Old 06-21-11 | 08:22 AM
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It seems a lot of the reason for using FSA cranks lately is BB30 compatibility. I don't think bike manufacturers like to put together a Shimano drive train with an SRAM BB30 crank, so FSA is one of the only other options out there.
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