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Anyone try Sugoi RS and RSE bib shorts?

Old 06-23-11, 10:48 PM
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Anyone try Sugoi RS and RSE bib shorts?

Any experience with either of these? Good? Bad?

https://www.sugoi.com/usa/eng/Product...U-RS-Bib-Short

https://www.sugoi.com/usa/eng/Product...-RSE-Bib-Short

I'm looking for a ~$150-$200 pair of bib shorts. These caught my eye, but I haven't been able to find too much info on them. I like the 10 panel fit, the look, and the pocket. I don't know what the RSE offers over the RS that makes it worth the higher price. I'm also open to other suggestions if you happen to know of a bib short that has similar features and price.

I'm mainly looking for a comfortable (thin feeling) chamois, subtle looks, a back pocket, and a good fit. I hate how the chamois in my PI Elite shorts feel so thick and bunchy. My Castelli bib tights have a better chamois and I like them overall, but I want to try something different this time for these bib shorts.

Thanks!
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Old 06-23-11, 11:10 PM
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For $150+, I'd look into Giordana Forma. Those and the Castelli with the Progetto X2 Chamoi are the best bibs I've ever used.
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Old 06-24-11, 12:40 AM
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I'm not sure the difference between the RS and RSE, but I have the RS and I'm a fan.

I'm just a hair over 6ft and 165lb, and I wear mediums. They're a tad small, but a better overall fit for me than the Large. The shoulder straps are a LITTLE small (With a baselayer, I don't notice it.)

I love the fabric.

Overall, I like them.
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Old 06-24-11, 12:41 AM
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My Sugoi have a very thick chamois.
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Old 06-24-11, 02:07 AM
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Sugoi RS are my favourite bibs, prefer them even to Assos. Fabric is a little heavier and I find they are better in cooler weather. Bib front rises up quite high making bathroom breaks harder than they need to be.
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Old 06-24-11, 02:24 AM
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I too prefer the Sugoi over Assos, and about everything else. I have both the RS and RSE. The chamois is very similar between the two, both providing more support at the sit bone area than many other shorts. The RSE chamois has more ventilation perforations toward the front than the RS and, its fabric is a bit thinner and silkier. The fit, feel and function is very similar though. Not sure if the RSE is worth the extra money, as they strike me as an attempt to improve upon an already excellent design.

If you want a thinner chamois, these may not be the ones for you. But they sure take the edge off just about any saddle and the miles go by easier. Like most things in cycling, there is a heavy dose of preference involved. You just have to try and see if they suit you.
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Old 06-24-11, 07:08 AM
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I really like the RS bibs. I had issues with the two pair I had with the stitching coming from the chamois....But nothing that wouldn't make them unridable. The RSE has more compression. They definately have more padding than my Giordana so I go to them for longer rides like 50+
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I got a pair of RS bibs because lots of people on this forum recommended them. I really really like them. I had a problem with one of the threads coming undone. I called their customer support and they replaced them right away. I don't think I'll ever buy anything else.
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I have a pair of RSE bibs. I'm 6'2", 180 lbs, I wear large. As some others have said, chamois is thick, not thin. One of the thickest I've felt, actually. Also, thicker straps, not so ideal for hot summer. Suspender dig a little bit for me. Not so much that I am in pain, but enough so that when I stop I take off my jersey & lower them until I resume riding. Also, as another said, the front does ride high, so I have to lower the suspenders if i want to use the bathroom.

I also have a pair of Giordana Silverline Bibs. I love them. Thinner chamois, very comfortable, thinner (more mesh) suspender material- good for warm weather, suspenders don't dig, I can use the bathroom just by pulling down the front, and they have a pocket. I wear large in these too.
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I haven't tried the Sugoi for in that price range I'd be looking at either Castelli Body Paint or Etxeondo Dicolor or Ator.
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Old 06-24-11, 01:03 PM
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Thanks guys! I will have to take a closer look at Giordana's offerings before I make my final decision. I've seen everything on Competitive Cyclist's website as well, and they seem to have a great selection of bibs. There is a lot to choose from. Unfortunately, at $150+ it's not really possible to try them all out and go with the best one. I'll just have to give one a shot and hope for the best.
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I love my rse bibs I'm 195 with a 32 inch waist and take a medium at 5'10

RS was my fav bib till I bought rse's on sale
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Ive used both. I ride with the rs every day. Very comfy. The rse don't have a back pocket and are shorter in the thigh region and are a better quality material. I prefer the rs however. Nice and tight. Back pocket is perfect for iPhone.
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The Girodanas fit a little more snug and are silky smooth but there chamois blows in my opinion. Always get saddle sores when I ride over 50 miles with them
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I have a pair of RS bibs with the RSE chamois. I only have a few short rides with them, but so far I like them very much
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I had the Sugoi RS bibs until very recently and in rotation with Giordanas Laser and Assos F1.Uno bibs. I like the RS. A lot. I rank the Assos third among the three as far as fit and comfort, with the Giordanas rated best. I especially like the RS compression. As others have said, if you are looking for a thin chamois, then the Sugoi RS is not what you want. Also, notice that I said I had the RSes. I just retired them due to a hole wearing in the inner thigh. Check reviews on line and you'll see that a few others have had the same thing happen. So as far as durability goes, my experience with them was subpar. Especially for the $150 price.
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i love my RS bibs. great shorts. Watch ebay and you can find good deals around $100-$120.
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