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Have you tried a swallow? they have the longest rails out of all the models.
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If I ride a short fast group ride, out comes the Toupe on a setback EC90 post. If I want to ride a double century on the same bike, I install the Brooks Ti Swallow on a setback Thomson Masterpiece. 5 second change.
On my steel ride, the Team Pro mounted to an offset Velo Orange seatpost keeps me riding in comfort on any brevet. Pick your saddle for the purpose. Brooks are a lot of things, but they are not useless. |
Originally Posted by Leukybear
(Post 12901114)
Have you tried a swallow? they have the longest rails out of all the models.
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Originally Posted by jamesdak
(Post 12901134)
How much more aft positioning does the swallow allow over the swift?
Here's a side by side comparison pic nonetheless for your discretion. http://wiki.boards.ie/images/thumb/3...ft_Swallow.JPG Swift in middle, swallow closest to you. |
Originally Posted by jamesdak
(Post 12901110)
I could not disagree more. No matter how many saddles I try I always have to come back to Brooks for the comfort. I can ride anything for 20 miles or so but since I ride a lot longer Brooks is king in my book. Oh and yes I do have one mounted on my 2011 Trek Madone 5.9. It's the reason my bike weighs over 17 lbs and I could care less.
Like the OP though I too am finding the rails too short. Funny thing is that even though I'm riding on the very back (riding the rivet) of my Brooks Swift it is still more comfortable for me than any other saddle I've tried. Last weekend I spent over 240 miles on my bike trying different saddles. The only comfortable miles I had were the last 100 or so when I put the Brooks back on. I am getting ready to try a Velo Orange saddle since the longer rails allow for more aft positioning. OP, I can solve too much weight on my hands issues with the saddle angle. For me fore and aft adjustments are to get positioned right in relation to the bottom bracket. This position is the most critical for me as I have to be in the right position to avoid aggravating my bad knees. |
I will never get to experience the joy of riding with a hammock under my ass.
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Yeah I definitely had the saddle tilted up on both bikes.
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Well, if you still felt like you were falling forward, you needed to tilt it more. It does take a little bit of adjustment to get the tilt just right for you. Some people have their saddles tilted to a point that looks like it would be very uncomfortable ... but it's not.
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Brooks saddles are useless
You forgot and fugly too. |
Originally Posted by pdxtex
(Post 12900754)
no offense to brooks but putting one of those on a lightweight road bike is the equivalent of showing up at the trackmeet in doc martens. if you must have a brooks seat, velo orange make a set back seat post with an extra long set back distance to compensate for the brooks' short rails.
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Originally Posted by Nachoman
(Post 12901507)
Brooks saddles are useless
You forgot and fugly too. |
for the record, i never said brooks saddles were ugly, they are just heavy and unconventional. im all for quirky things, and definitely british quirky things but thats one product i dont care to fuss with.
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Originally Posted by halfspeed
(Post 12901166)
I knew the 41 wouldn't get it.
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Originally Posted by Nachoman
(Post 12901507)
Brooks saddles are useless
You forgot and fugly too. |
You know you sit pretty much near the end of the saddle unlike most conventional saddles? So if the rails are longer in front and clamped there, it'll probably snap from the leverage. I'm sure Brooks thought of that.
Maybe your frame size is too small. |
Originally Posted by rolliepollie
(Post 12902110)
You know you sit pretty much near the end of the saddle unlike most conventional saddles? So if the rails are longer in front and clamped there, it'll probably snap from the leverage. I'm sure Brooks thought of that.
Maybe your frame size is too small. +1 When you have a setback post and the saddle all the way back and you are still having problems, maybe look into getting a larger frame. Or, at the risk of blaspheming in the 41, change the angle of your stem. |
My B17s are definitely not crap. However not for my road bike (anymore). Just switched the B17 Imperial to arione and the arione is comfortable from the first ride. As my position has gotten racier, i found that my B17 wouldn't cut it. I have to admit that because B17 was so comfortable I was able bike a lot and lose weight (lost 40 lbs riding the brooks since 1 Jan).
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Brooks saddles were designed in the days when 70-72 degree seat tubes were standard, so saddle setback wasn't a problem.
Riders who keep buying Brooks saddles, just like the people who buy Martin guitars, like them just the way they are, so I doubt anything's going to change. |
Originally Posted by halfspeed
(Post 12901166)
I knew the 41 wouldn't get it.
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As has been beat to death on other posts (but I'll still bring it up here...), Brooks' do take a bit to break in. My B17 Imperial needed a good 500-700 miles before the shine was worn off and some swale was put into the leather. Before that, I always felt I was sliding, no matter what setback or angle. Now, the leather is totally dull after 2700 sweaty miles and I feel like I stick like glue to it...and that's a good thing to me. It is a wonderful thing to forget about what you are sitting on. It just disappears on every ride...even after many, many hours. Screw an extra 100 grams...I want an extra 100+ minutes more of comfort!
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Funny... because I've been trying to push my brooks swift further up and there it is not long enough to get it more forward... I have a setback post also. probably standard setback. I'm looking into a Thomson 0 setback so that I can have more options of saddle placement. Of course I am a small rider... the frame I have is the smallest it comes in but the top tube is longer than normal or at least longer than I want. Just someone on the other side of the scale, I guess.
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I guess this explains why everyone hates them so much and they have so much trouble staying in business.
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Originally Posted by dbh
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Originally Posted by flaco
(Post 12900429)
Perfect, all you need is another expensive, heavy custom part! problem solved.
Under $50.00 |
"on the rivet" - riding at full on speed while up on the NOSE of the saddle, where there are also rivets.
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