starting to dislike sram (rival)
07-09-11, 09:55 PM
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starting to dislike sram (rival)
dropped the chain four time today. Chain is very slow from big ring to small ring, mainly it doesn't even go down if Im pedaling a hill cadence. and it does not like being shifted on both derailers at the same time.
07-09-11, 10:02 PM
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Hmm... I know everyone's going to spout "get it checked by a good mechanic" and you'll respond "I already did that" and then they'll say "well he must have not been a very good one", so instead I'll say that perhaps Rival just drops it a lot. It has happened a few times to me as well.
07-09-11, 10:06 PM
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I have SRAM Rival components on several bikes and I cant remember when was a last time I dropped chain. Maybe once in last 10K miles?
07-09-11, 10:13 PM
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Most lower end mechanical drivetrains do not like to be shifted on front and rear at the same time. My 105 will drop the chain every time I shift big to small front and the rear at same time but it will actually not have a problem when doing small to big in front and shifting rear at same time. Try a chain catcher like a Deda dog fang.
07-09-11, 10:22 PM
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Change to Shimano and/or Campagnolo. /thread 
07-09-11, 10:28 PM
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I dropped the chain off the big ring of my Rival a couple of times until I adjusted the high limit.
07-09-11, 10:29 PM
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How old is the chain and are the derailers adjusted correctly? You'd be surprised what a worn chain will do to a finely tuned precision instrument like Sram Rival.
07-09-11, 10:39 PM
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wow after thinking a bit i realized that when i put a shorter stem on, it binded the cable some and likely lifted the front derailuer a bit. I should try adjusting it down some before i go flaming on sram.
07-09-11, 10:42 PM
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Most lower end mechanical drivetrains do not like to be shifted on front and rear at the same time. My 105 will drop the chain every time I shift big to small front and the rear at same time but it will actually not have a problem when doing small to big in front and shifting rear at same time. Try a chain catcher like a Deda dog fang.
07-09-11, 10:52 PM
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Always check your own work before blaming a second party. Glad problem solved.
07-09-11, 10:54 PM
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07-09-11, 11:30 PM
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If you've been dropping the chain off the big ring a lot, you may want to inspect the FD for damage. Dropping a chain that way can easily bend the outer cage plate outwards, after which you will get even more drops off the big ring. Slow shifting from big to small is a symptom of this, in my experience.
07-10-11, 12:10 AM
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Even if it was your fault, SRAM still sucks.
SRAM offers a great idea in a product - it's light, it's cheap, and it has an innovative shifting system. The only detriment is the fact that SRAM takes major dives in the manufacturing process, and, thus, their products (with the exception of certain Red items) are complete and total crap.
Working in a high end shop, I can honestly say that 90% of our warranty claims occur with SRAM and that I'll never mount it on my bike unless it's a crit bike destined for death.
SRAM offers a great idea in a product - it's light, it's cheap, and it has an innovative shifting system. The only detriment is the fact that SRAM takes major dives in the manufacturing process, and, thus, their products (with the exception of certain Red items) are complete and total crap.
Working in a high end shop, I can honestly say that 90% of our warranty claims occur with SRAM and that I'll never mount it on my bike unless it's a crit bike destined for death.
07-10-11, 02:01 AM
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Even if it was your fault, SRAM still sucks.
SRAM offers a great idea in a product - it's light, it's cheap, and it has an innovative shifting system. The only detriment is the fact that SRAM takes major dives in the manufacturing process, and, thus, their products (with the exception of certain Red items) are complete and total crap.
Working in a high end shop, I can honestly say that 90% of our warranty claims occur with SRAM and that I'll never mount it on my bike unless it's a crit bike destined for death.
SRAM offers a great idea in a product - it's light, it's cheap, and it has an innovative shifting system. The only detriment is the fact that SRAM takes major dives in the manufacturing process, and, thus, their products (with the exception of certain Red items) are complete and total crap.
Working in a high end shop, I can honestly say that 90% of our warranty claims occur with SRAM and that I'll never mount it on my bike unless it's a crit bike destined for death.
I'd rather use a system that works REALLY well for ME, and know that I have to get it fixed sooner, than a system I'm hating all the time that lasts forever.
07-10-11, 03:44 AM
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Even if it was your fault, SRAM still sucks.
SRAM offers a great idea in a product - it's light, it's cheap, and it has an innovative shifting system. The only detriment is the fact that SRAM takes major dives in the manufacturing process, and, thus, their products (with the exception of certain Red items) are complete and total crap.
Working in a high end shop, I can honestly say that 90% of our warranty claims occur with SRAM and that I'll never mount it on my bike unless it's a crit bike destined for death.
SRAM offers a great idea in a product - it's light, it's cheap, and it has an innovative shifting system. The only detriment is the fact that SRAM takes major dives in the manufacturing process, and, thus, their products (with the exception of certain Red items) are complete and total crap.
Working in a high end shop, I can honestly say that 90% of our warranty claims occur with SRAM and that I'll never mount it on my bike unless it's a crit bike destined for death.
07-10-11, 04:13 AM
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Even if it was your fault, SRAM still sucks.
SRAM offers a great idea in a product - it's light, it's cheap, and it has an innovative shifting system. The only detriment is the fact that SRAM takes major dives in the manufacturing process, and, thus, their products (with the exception of certain Red items) are complete and total crap.
Working in a high end shop, I can honestly say that 90% of our warranty claims occur with SRAM and that I'll never mount it on my bike unless it's a crit bike destined for death.
SRAM offers a great idea in a product - it's light, it's cheap, and it has an innovative shifting system. The only detriment is the fact that SRAM takes major dives in the manufacturing process, and, thus, their products (with the exception of certain Red items) are complete and total crap.
Working in a high end shop, I can honestly say that 90% of our warranty claims occur with SRAM and that I'll never mount it on my bike unless it's a crit bike destined for death.
I considered putting Red on my Addict, but I fear Sram.
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07-10-11, 04:15 AM
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Specifically they say the front derailleur sucks (Red, I presume it's similar on the other groups). That really can be a pain in the ass. Overall the stuff just looks pretty cheesy compared to comparable Shimano groups.
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07-10-11, 05:05 AM
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LOL...I have Rival on one of my bikes. I put about 4,000 miles on it and never have once dropped a chain or had any issues. Ever. Shifts great.
I have Red on my other bike. Never have had an issue with that either. Ever. My only complaint is that the chain is noisy. But since I have a boatload of 7800 chains, I'll be switching them both very soon.
I had Red on another bike. It burned up in a house fire. I got it the second season it was out. That set had about 20,000 miles on it. Never once had a problem. When I replaced this bike with my current one, I never looked for anything else but a Red equipped bike.
Bikes are complicated thingys. They require occasional attention.
I just crack up every time I see these threads. I really do.
BTW...I use Dura Ace casettes because I didn't like the one piece Red stuff...11-21 on both bikes, not that it really matters.
I have Red on my other bike. Never have had an issue with that either. Ever. My only complaint is that the chain is noisy. But since I have a boatload of 7800 chains, I'll be switching them both very soon.
I had Red on another bike. It burned up in a house fire. I got it the second season it was out. That set had about 20,000 miles on it. Never once had a problem. When I replaced this bike with my current one, I never looked for anything else but a Red equipped bike.
Bikes are complicated thingys. They require occasional attention.
I just crack up every time I see these threads. I really do.
BTW...I use Dura Ace casettes because I didn't like the one piece Red stuff...11-21 on both bikes, not that it really matters.
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07-10-11, 05:12 AM
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I laugh so hard every time I see a thread like this....
I really like being able to customize the shifter to where I want it.
07-10-11, 05:47 AM
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Since no one has asked... Are you cross chaining ala Schleck?
I'm using Rival and have not experienced chain drops, the drivetrain is noisier than Ultegra, seems to come from the bottom pulley.
I'm using Rival and have not experienced chain drops, the drivetrain is noisier than Ultegra, seems to come from the bottom pulley.
07-10-11, 06:36 AM
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I'm going to whole heatedly disagree. This might be the case in your setup, but it's not true for a proper setup. Shifting isn't some magical thing, you're just pushing a chain one direction or another. Shifting technique and how well installed your FD are the two most likely culprits (ok, a worn chain might be a bigger one, but we'll assume you know when to change a chain).
07-10-11, 07:50 AM
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I love my dura-ace...never felt anything shift smoother. My fingers are pretty long so I don't see the need to adjust anything or be able to pull the shifting lever closer when in the drops...if Im in the drops im probably maxed out and not shifting cuz i htfu Im reaching for my brakes making sure I don't bump tires. Sram stuff feels cheap to me...looks cheap too...
