I got crashed out by a Triathlete
07-11-11, 06:37 PM
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I rarely do organized events anymore. And no, not because of tri-geeks w/aero bars on their rod bike. Just too many people who buy a bike, and then the learning stops there.
Why not extend that to everyone that doesn't race? Racers usually know what to do in groups to avoid crashes, random Freds on metric centuries not so much. Or better still, extend it to everyone on a bike. Don't ride in groups and you won't get crashed out by people that don't know how to ride in groups
07-11-11, 06:45 PM
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Perhaps it's roadies w/ little aerobar experience experience, not triathletes (who are used to using aerobars), that people need to be particularly wary of. *shrugs*
I just play it safe and stay away from all riders (especially total strangers) w/ aerobars unless they're someone I've ridden with before.
I just play it safe and stay away from all riders (especially total strangers) w/ aerobars unless they're someone I've ridden with before.
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07-11-11, 07:02 PM
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What if I'm a roadie turning into a triathlete?! What mercy will I receive if I display my group riding skillzz and road bike, but in tri clothes!??
07-12-11, 06:12 AM
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I am going to do a Half Ironman next year, and I fully expect all my brethren here in the 41 to heap abuse on me when I do so. And I'll have deserved it.
07-12-11, 07:50 AM
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fwiw, there is an Ironman guy who rides with us sometimes and he is a good bike handler, very friendly, and strong as an ox.
07-12-11, 08:09 AM
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It's not just tryathleetes with aero bars. My M-W-F group ride has a tryathleete who shows up a couple times a month on a nice road bike, and he's easily the scariest guy I've ever riden with. Problem is because he's a tryathleete, and strong like bull, he can ride himself into some very bad positions without the skill set required to get out of those bad positions, or avoid getting into them in the first place. Generally when this guy shows up I try to stay as far away from him as possible.
07-12-11, 08:18 AM
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07-12-11, 08:40 AM
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Aren't you a member of a local club? If so, do you avoid pacelining with them (assuming you don't recognize each person on the ride to be a proficient bike handler?
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07-12-11, 08:54 AM
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Your views on triathletes is often shared by others on their general smug attitude and careless demeanor. Sorry to hear about your crash and saddle damage, Ghouse. Best wishes on your speedy recovery.
07-12-11, 09:07 AM
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Our saturday LBS ride has all sorts of people, Tris, Bis, few road racers, casual road riders with aero bars etc...never had this kind of problem. Dumbasses are everywhere though in all of the aforementioned groups, so they are hard to get away from. But, if you have some particular issue with Tri riders, then just avoid them altogether.
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07-12-11, 09:41 AM
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07-12-11, 10:01 AM
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Too many words. His fault and your fault. Your dang fault for being near him. Your fault for actually thinking he would call out anything. You must not race.
On a metric century this weekend I was doing well just to get out of bed at 4:30am and get to the start line on time. I had just caught a nasty sinus cold the day before and snot was pouring out of my nose. Staring at myself in the mirror I told myself to HTFU and get out there anyway.
After about 10 miles (and 20-30 snot rockets) I was feeling pretty good but certainly not in top form. About 15 miles from the finish some dude on a tri bike starts chatting me up talking about his wheels and how he does a lot of triathlons. "whatever" ... I didn't think much of the guy, but i was cordial despite my internal resentment to his road bike with tri bars mounted on top.
About 7 miles from the finish he was positioned in front of me and to my left a bit. Five or six of us had been pacing so we were still fairly close to each other. As we came up to an intersection the riders in front had rolled straight through, but the tri-guy to my left decided he was going to take a 90 degree turn to the right without pointing, calling out, or making any gesture as to his intentions. I had to brake super hard, locking up my rear brakes and power sliding my bike in the direction he was going. For a moment I thought I would actually slide into him and just knock him over, which would've been a better scenario, but he had cleared a little more distance and my front wheel ended up clipping his rear wheel while i was sliding sideways. As our wheels connected i was thrown in the direction of travel (which at this point i was facing to the right but moving to my left with my right knee almost sliding across the ground) and rolled across the intersection.
I got up and my wrist was all ganked, I had a bloody knee and a bruised hip. I'm fine with the bumps, bruises and sprains, but my bike now has a brand new Toupe saddle that's shredded on the side, a Ksyrium wheel that's out of true, some F-ed up bar tape, some chewed up skewer bolts, and a scratched up RED lever. The guy apologized and I tried not to be irrational.... sh*t does happen. I do remember telling him i was pissed about my saddle.
I was tired of hearing his voice and I just wanted to be rid of this guy so I jumped back on the bike to take off and the anger started to set in... so I hammered the final climbs to the finish line with the pain from my wrist just feeding the fire.
My past experiences with triathlon types have been about the same. I've been spit on by tri-guys (one hocked a loogie without looking back or pulling to the side and it landed on my face), I've had to slam on my brakes in the middle of a climb due to their inattentiveness, they hold horrible lines, I've seen them throw their trash on the roads, they suddenly slow even if they're on the front to hydrate instead of dropping back... now one has crashed me out.
So it's official, if you have tri-bars on your bike, i will not be cordial to you on the road, i will not let you in a paceline, and i will fry myself dropping you if that's what it takes.
After about 10 miles (and 20-30 snot rockets) I was feeling pretty good but certainly not in top form. About 15 miles from the finish some dude on a tri bike starts chatting me up talking about his wheels and how he does a lot of triathlons. "whatever" ... I didn't think much of the guy, but i was cordial despite my internal resentment to his road bike with tri bars mounted on top.
About 7 miles from the finish he was positioned in front of me and to my left a bit. Five or six of us had been pacing so we were still fairly close to each other. As we came up to an intersection the riders in front had rolled straight through, but the tri-guy to my left decided he was going to take a 90 degree turn to the right without pointing, calling out, or making any gesture as to his intentions. I had to brake super hard, locking up my rear brakes and power sliding my bike in the direction he was going. For a moment I thought I would actually slide into him and just knock him over, which would've been a better scenario, but he had cleared a little more distance and my front wheel ended up clipping his rear wheel while i was sliding sideways. As our wheels connected i was thrown in the direction of travel (which at this point i was facing to the right but moving to my left with my right knee almost sliding across the ground) and rolled across the intersection.
I got up and my wrist was all ganked, I had a bloody knee and a bruised hip. I'm fine with the bumps, bruises and sprains, but my bike now has a brand new Toupe saddle that's shredded on the side, a Ksyrium wheel that's out of true, some F-ed up bar tape, some chewed up skewer bolts, and a scratched up RED lever. The guy apologized and I tried not to be irrational.... sh*t does happen. I do remember telling him i was pissed about my saddle.
I was tired of hearing his voice and I just wanted to be rid of this guy so I jumped back on the bike to take off and the anger started to set in... so I hammered the final climbs to the finish line with the pain from my wrist just feeding the fire.
My past experiences with triathlon types have been about the same. I've been spit on by tri-guys (one hocked a loogie without looking back or pulling to the side and it landed on my face), I've had to slam on my brakes in the middle of a climb due to their inattentiveness, they hold horrible lines, I've seen them throw their trash on the roads, they suddenly slow even if they're on the front to hydrate instead of dropping back... now one has crashed me out.
So it's official, if you have tri-bars on your bike, i will not be cordial to you on the road, i will not let you in a paceline, and i will fry myself dropping you if that's what it takes.
07-12-11, 10:15 AM
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07-12-11, 10:17 AM
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Yeah, I hate fat people too! What sort of brain disease do you have? Anyone who sweats is your brother, unless they're physically grotesque. Jesus dude, go play in traffic.
I sweat my ass off when I ride; I ride like hell; I put into my ride everything I can; and I'm GD exhausted when I'm done. But I suppose since I'm overweight, you'll probably vomit at the thought. Brother?!? Ha!
I sweat my ass off when I ride; I ride like hell; I put into my ride everything I can; and I'm GD exhausted when I'm done. But I suppose since I'm overweight, you'll probably vomit at the thought. Brother?!? Ha!
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07-12-11, 10:18 AM
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when it does happen it's caused by either a TV car, motorcycle, dog, fan or a wayward tri-guy
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Strike 1) You rode in an organized metric century.
Strike 2) You overlapped wheels.
Strike 3) You were drafting a triathlete.
You're out. Fred status detected. Your privileges to hate on triathletes are hereby revoked.
Strike 2) You overlapped wheels.
Strike 3) You were drafting a triathlete.
You're out. Fred status detected. Your privileges to hate on triathletes are hereby revoked.
07-12-11, 10:21 AM
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07-12-11, 10:37 AM
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07-12-11, 10:51 AM
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I know we like to make fun of people for whatever reason we can find (and if we can't find one, we make stuff up), but what's wrong with riding a metric century?
07-12-11, 10:54 AM
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Yeah, I hate fat people too! What sort of brain disease do you have? Anyone who sweats is your brother, unless they're physically grotesque. Jesus dude, go play in traffic.
I sweat my ass off when I ride; I ride like hell; I put into my ride everything I can; and I'm GD exhausted when I'm done. But I suppose since I'm overweight, you'll probably vomit at the thought. Brother?!? Ha!
I sweat my ass off when I ride; I ride like hell; I put into my ride everything I can; and I'm GD exhausted when I'm done. But I suppose since I'm overweight, you'll probably vomit at the thought. Brother?!? Ha!
