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carmageddon2011: bicyclists race jet airplane across Los Angeles

Old 07-16-11, 07:59 AM
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The distance they have to cover on city streets is 40 miles. If the riders follow traffic laws, which their race rules state they will, then the advantage is with the jet. Once in the air, it's gonna be a 10 minute flight at best for the aircraft (someone with grammar school math skills more refined than mine can do the math). Then without a luggage stop, it's just a quick taxi ride to the harbor park finish line for the jet passengers. That's assuming the jet riders will play fair and won't delay their Long Beach airport departure.
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Old 07-16-11, 08:04 AM
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hey Kidd, do you get to the Marriott last night? Conway was talking about how the police were patroling the road to keep people off, but how empty the highway was even before the closing..........
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apparently they were going to arrest anyone trying to bike the closed road. never heard if they did or now. I think KFI has a live web cam.
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Old 07-16-11, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by KiddSisko
The distance they have to cover on city streets is 40 miles. If the riders follow traffic laws, which their race rules state they will, then the advantage is with the jet. Once in the air, it's gonna be a 10 minute flight at best for the aircraft (someone with grammar school math skills more refined than mine can do the math). Then without a luggage stop, it's just a quick taxi ride to the harbor park finish line for the jet passengers. That's assuming the jet riders will play fair and won't delay their Long Beach airport departure.
The route to Long Beach that the Hustle are taking is supposed to be the same as the LA River Ride. They posted on Twitter that they would be on the bike path for much of their ride. They plan on averaging 26-28 mph including traffic stops. Advantage bikes.
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Follow the race live on Twitter: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23FlightVsBike
Start time is 10:50am PDT today.

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Old 07-16-11, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by learnmedia
They plan on averaging 26-28 mph including traffic stops. Advantage bikes.
Even without the insane speed I'd give them the advantage. Regular rush hour traffic can be beaten by bike over fairly respectable distances.
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Old 07-16-11, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by banerjek
Even without the insane speed I'd give them the advantage. Regular rush hour traffic can be beaten by bike over fairly respectable distances.
They are racing a jet airplane, not regular rush hour traffic. And the race is on a Saturday morning (today).
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Old 07-16-11, 12:36 PM
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This story made the Los Angeles Times this morning: https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...sus-bikes.html
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Originally Posted by johnny99
They are racing a jet airplane, not regular rush hour traffic. And the race is on a Saturday morning (today).
Sure, but ground logistics should make the result a foregone conclusion. Traffic was supposed to be bad today due to the closure, but it sounds like that was a bust.

A realistic race would be from door to door including mucking with the TSA, the normal flight delays, etc. In such a race, there'd be an excellent chance of the cyclists finishing before the plane got off the ground.
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Originally Posted by banerjek
Sure, but ground logistics should make the result a foregone conclusion. Traffic was supposed to be bad today due to the closure, but it sounds like that was a bust.

A realistic race would be from door to door including mucking with the TSA, the normal flight delays, etc. In such a race, there'd be an excellent chance of the cyclists finishing before the plane got off the ground.
The bicyclists get a 90 minute head start to match the airline's recommended check-in time.
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Old 07-16-11, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny99
The bicyclists get a 90 minute head start to match the airline's recommended check-in time.
Just checked the feed. Looks like the plane might get off the ground before the cyclists finish but Wolfpack is going to win by a huge margin. The charities will do quite well.
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This made MSN's homepage as well.
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The winners at the finish line: https://4sq.com/oQwhWn
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Old 07-16-11, 01:49 PM
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P.S. The cops are saying any more bicyclists caught on the freeway will be arrested. Half a dozen have already been "escorted off" with a warning.
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Old 07-16-11, 01:53 PM
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What's the deal with all the dog-tags?
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Old 07-16-11, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by learnmedia
The route to Long Beach that the Hustle are taking is supposed to be the same as the LA River Ride. They posted on Twitter that they would be on the bike path for much of their ride. They plan on averaging 26-28 mph including traffic stops. Advantage bikes.
Yeah, I just read the result. Bikes won by a long shot. Used the LA river trail. Hardly city streets. And I heard them interviewed on the radio just now. Cool.
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Also, the flight is actually more in the 30 minute range, and that's the plane leaving the terminal, taxiing, waiting for takeoff, flight time, landing, taxiing, to passengers exiting the plane.
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Bicyclists won by 1.5 hours?
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Originally Posted by iheartbenben
What's the deal with all the dog-tags?
They win dog tags from their "organized" races.
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According to the Twitters these are the unofficial results.

Bikes1:34 Metro/Walk1:44 Rollerblader2:40 Plane/cab driver2:54

I haven't seen a writeup on the race yet.
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https://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/bik...or-bust/011522
https://road.cc/content/news/38986-cy...nge-california
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From another news article:

JetBlue called for a re-match.

"The cyclists rolled all over us this time," said Sebastian White, spokesman for the airline. "Out of fairness, we'd like to propose a best of three. How about LAX (in Los Angeles) to JFK (in New York) next time?"
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Here's a good article:

https://www.slate.com/id/2299432/?from=rss
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Writer of the Slate article said: "In the face of this fanciful idea (a traffic-busting flight!) it became possible to demonstrate that cycling, often taken as a non-serious or marginal or even annoying (to some drivers) form of transportation in the U.S., could seem eminently reasonable: Not only the cheapest form of transportation, not merely the one with the smallest carbon footprint, not only the one most beneficial to the health of its user, but the fastest."

Cheapest? Those guys on the Wolfpack Hustle A team were riding carbon wonderbikes. We all know it would have only been possible to average nearly 25 mph on such pricey bikes, right?





Actually, one of them was on a vintage steel.
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Wolfpack Hustle. Aka urban hipsters.

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