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Nassa 07-20-11 11:16 AM

TDF - Seat height
 
Does anybody find that the seat height on the tour riders high?
I am the same height as a couple of the riders and my seat is not as high.
Any thoughts?

jsutkeepspining 07-20-11 11:24 AM

lower seat height is better for producing power.

DropDeadFred 07-20-11 11:27 AM

are arent them...you might be riding a bigger bike as well

Seattle Forrest 07-20-11 11:29 AM

Saddle height is part of how your bike fits. You want it to fit you, not someone else.

mrvile 07-20-11 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by DropDeadFred (Post 12957526)
are arent them...you might be riding a bigger bike as well

He probably is. Check out the setback and reach of pro bikes - they all run pretty small frames.

AndyK 07-20-11 11:35 AM

By high, you mean how much post is sticking out above the top tubes, right? That struck me too, but since the pros use frames that are smaller sized, they are bound to have more post showing!

Nassa 07-20-11 11:35 AM

I got my bike at a local LBS and got fit for height and adjustments.
I ride a 52 cm frame.
I just found it strange at the height of the saddle on the pros. I don't think I could touch the pedals at some of the saddle heights.

Nassa 07-20-11 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 12957567)
By high, you mean how much post is sticking out above the top tubes, right? That struck me too, but since the pros use frames that are smaller sized, they are bound to have more post showing!

Yeah that is what I mean.
What size frame do they use?

pjcampbell 07-20-11 11:38 AM

Lower is more power? that is new to me. How do you figure?

HMF 07-20-11 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by pjcampbell (Post 12957583)
Lower is more power? that is new to me. How do you figure?

Yea, that's not correct.

merlinextraligh 07-20-11 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Nassa (Post 12957574)
Yeah that is what I mean.
What size frame do they use?

They obviously use different sized frames, given that the height of the riders varies. Andy Schleck likley does not ride the same frame size as Mark Cavendish.

What you can say as a generality is that Pro riders today, tend to ride smaller frames than typically ridden by recreational riders of the same height.

One major reason for this is that it facilitates a greater drop from the bar to the seat, encouraging a more aerodynamic position.

merlinextraligh 07-20-11 11:47 AM

For example, Schleck at 6'1" reportedly rides a 56cm frame

billyymc 07-20-11 11:47 AM

Why do they use smaller frames? Aren't most of their bikes under the weight limits anyway so they have to add weight? Thought I heard/read that somewhere.

jsutkeepspining 07-20-11 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by HMF (Post 12957633)
Yea, that's not correct.

yeah slightly lower saddle position is more powerful than what is consider the correct saddle position by most recreational cyclist.

merlinextraligh 07-20-11 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by billyymc (Post 12957654)
Why do they use smaller frames? Aren't most of their bikes under the weight limits anyway so they have to add weight? Thought I heard/read that somewhere.

It's not for the weight savings, it's for the position. Smaller frame = shorter head tube, and more seat post extended = more drop from seat to bars.

The smaller frame may be a bit more stiff, but the primary reason is postioning.

bikepro 07-20-11 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by pjcampbell (Post 12957583)
Lower is more power? that is new to me. How do you figure?

Actually a lower saddle usually permits a higher cadence. A higher saddle normally provides more power. You can shorten or lengthen the effective saddle height by sliding forward or backward on the saddle.

DropDeadFred 07-20-11 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by mrvile (Post 12957535)
He probably is. Check out the setback and reach of pro bikes - they all run pretty small frames.

what i meant is that most pros will ride a bike not "fit" for them..smaller for tighter handling and stiffness...if he bought one sized for him and he's tall like some of them are then he's might be riiding a larger frame with lower seat

therhodeo 07-20-11 12:47 PM

Ah its July in bike world.

Grumpy McTrumpy 07-20-11 01:04 PM

you need to recalibrate your television monitor's built-in seat-height-o-meter.

Inertianinja 07-20-11 01:10 PM

are you referring to how much seat post is showing?

in that case, it's probably because their bikes are probably 2 sizes smaller than yours, so much more post is showing, since their seat tubes are so much shorter.

i have 2 bikes - a 58 and a 56. on the 56, i'm almost at minimum insertion, whereas on the 58, not so.

Spacemunky 07-20-11 01:12 PM

lower saddle = cadence

higher saddle = power

Its the difference between recruiting more glute vs quad/ham. The higher the saddle(to a threshold where your hips dont move)the more power and length in each downstroke and the "heavier" you sit in the saddle. The lower the saddle the lighter you are on the pads because you are floating a little more with the bottom of the downstroke raising you just the tiniest bit without rocking your hips.

Thats why Ivan Basso uses an adjustable seatpost so he can power through flats and spin through hills/rollers

I am 5'9" with a 32.75" inseam and I ride a 53cm (53.5 virtual) with a 135mm stem because I like a LONG reach when I sprint or low in the drops. I also ride with a setback of about 35mm(short femurs) and a height of 740mm-745mm. I ride 740mm when I want to cruise a little or spin more like climbing...and 745mm when I need some power riding big gears.

DropDeadFred 07-20-11 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Inertianinja (Post 12958219)
are you referring to how much seat post is showing?


i'm almost at minimum insertion, whereas on the 58, not so.

youre talkin dirty now...

ravenmore 07-20-11 01:55 PM

smaller bikes have a shorter wheel base and handle 'quicker'.

FactVord 07-20-11 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy (Post 12958172)
you need to recalibrate your television monitor's built-in seat-height-o-meter.

:)

johnny99 07-20-11 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by billyymc (Post 12957654)
Why do they use smaller frames? Aren't most of their bikes under the weight limits anyway so they have to add weight? Thought I heard/read that somewhere.

Smaller bikes allow a more aerodynamic handlebar position.


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