my hand built wheels from Psimet survived a crash at 40km an hour

there was a ding in the rim that my lbs filed out for me and they still spin true

I have the XR-300 built to white industries hubs and dt spokes and I'm 195 right now. up a few pounds form my crash

What if all of my rides are climbing rides? :D

Seriously though, if you put enough spokes on them, it shouldn't be a problem (not that this will make the OP feel better). GEL280 rims seem to last forever on the track, but that's because they are commonly built with 32 or 36 spokes. Sure, a heavier and/or deeper rim will last longer, but I expect these to last longer than I want them to anyway. I get the itch to build a new pair for myself every few years anyway.

Man...really wish those K-10's survived. They were such great do-it-all wheels for me, as I do commute 2-3x/week 40-50mi one way on roads of mixed quality. I'm worried that I'll have to keep truing these custom wheels every month now.

would the velocity a23's be okay for everyday use and abuse?

DT rims build into nice durable all rounder wheels,that can take a fair bit of abuse, dunno about Velocity rims because not too many of them get built up in my neck of the woods. If you want a tubular like ride just put 25mm tires on and cover your hands in glue for authenticity. Clinchers are always going to have a weight penalty over tubs which is a large part of the difference in ride feel, but the wide track would be nice.

I found this on Weight weenies, from a guy who has a pair and has some good detailed feedback on them.
Sound pretty durable, and versatile, linky link http://weightweenies.starbike.com/fo...hp?f=3&t=90643


"I have a handbuilt 340 set (run with tubes) and also a A23 set. I have done several "roubaix" style races and rides here in the US.

My 340 set is my climbing wheel, and my A23 set is my roubaix (and everyday training) set.

I assume one of the primary goals of your wheel choice is comfort and flat prevention. To that regard, if you pair the A23 (or other wide rim like Hed) with a wide tire, you'll have a great combination. I run my A23 set with the Vittoria Pave (24mm)...it's really amazing what the extra volume does....I run them at 80psi on the really rough races, without issue (I weigh 122lbs) I also see the Conti 4000S is now available in 25mm. They may offer improved cut resistance as well, which is a weak point in my experience for the Pave's.

For these types of events, you can't go wrong with wide tires on wide rims. You can drop the pressure for greater comfort, without as much worry of pinchflats.

I understand the attraction of tubeless for these applications...but, I'm not sure I would want to beat up a set of 340 rims...they are really light rims, and in my mind, less metal equals more fragile. Maybe others can comment on the 340 rim's durability in these applications. Maybe someone's raced cross with them. I'd opt for a shimano set if you really wanted tubeless.
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hmm he says he weighs 122lbs which is a lot less than the 180 i weigh, i suppose i'll have to do some more research but i may just go 24/28

Yes.

The 25s I had mounted on A23s measured 28 on the rim, the same tire measures 26 on a 19 width, so most tires will be wider on A23s. The exception are Continentals which are always narrow to begin with. The climbs I do are on rough pavement, the descents are punctuated with washed out low water crossings. I've experienced no wheel issues using a 32 spoke count, at 210lbs rider and bike. I now have plush 32s mounted, and they corner well on the wider rim. The big advantage for the A23 is how it maintains a large tire's proper shape, less light bulb effect.

Finally had a chance to take the new wheels out on a few rides this weekend and am impressed.

- These wheels feel much stiffer than my old Mavic K-10s. Ride quality was noticeably firmer.
- They respond really well on climbs and feel snappy during sprints
- Power transfer feels very solid

Did a couple of bunny hops today and the wheels remained true...phew! How will I know over the long term whether or not I am in fact too heavy? How often is too often for getting wheels trued?