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Riding Etiquette

Old 08-02-11, 04:42 PM
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Riding Etiquette

I have yet rode with anyone. I always ride alone with access to 100+ miles of paved trail's a mile from my home there are normally alot of bike out of all different levels.
I recent switched from a mountain bike to a road bike. And before i would easily pass many of the slower road bikes.(I averaged around 17 to 17.5 mph) But would get passed by some of the better riders.
Now that I am starting to ride a road bike (only 2 rides under my belt). I can see my self trying to keep up with some of these guys who are going 19+mph. Is there any etiquette i should follow when doing so?
These trails are non-motorized vehicles only. So its basicly stay to the right pass on the left. But any help informing me of some of the do's and dont i should follow.
I noticed alot of "serious" riders refuse to wave as passing the opposite way. I always acknowledge other riders and runners. So thus far it doesnt seem as friendly as runners normally are. Is this the norm? What about riding with or trying to keep pace with other riders?
Again any help with these questions and any anything to may have to offer would be great.

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you could do a search and find out lots but here are the cliff's notes:

riding with others involves the mutual acceptance of risk. experienced riders won't accept more risk than necessary. if you don't have any close quarters riding experience, don't follow a stranger's wheel. actually even if you do, don't follow a stranger's wheel without asking. find an organized group ride, talk with the ride leaders and ask questions. if you don't, and you glom onto my wheel, don't be surprised if you find yourself in a ditch.
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Originally Posted by pdedes View Post
if you don't have any close quarters riding experience, don't follow a stranger's wheel. actually even if you do, don't follow a stranger's wheel without asking.
+1 You don't want to be behind someone when they're blowing a snotrocket or spitting. I agree with OP that it's hard to meet riders, but should an opportunity present itself, you don't want to think back and ask "why didn't I introduce myself?" Live life to your fullest and don't take people not waving back personally. For example, when I'm doing a hard pull at 30mph with headwind for over 2 minutes, the last thing I want to do is break my pace/concentration Just my 2 cents.
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on dont follow a strangers wheel, stay back or pass.
I had some chick sucking on my wheel, without my knowledge. (guess it was nice drafting behind a MtB)
she got piss at me for making a sudden move. a true Wtf moment.
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Here's some general "rules" to ride by:
  • As others said, it’s not okay to draft unless the other per*son has given per*mis*sion. So ask.
  • Ride pre*dictably so other rid*ers know where you are going. Don't swerve from side-to-side. This is called, "Holding your line". You never know if someone is drafting you without asking (?!).
  • If you are drafting someone, don't use aerobars!
  • If clear, always ride as far to the right as prac*ti*ca*ble (in the U.S.). Faster riders (or cars) might like to pass you at some point.
  • The MUP isn’t a closed race course: be aware of your surroundings. Don't ride with your head down pretending to be the next Lance.

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The "wave" thing has been discussed a lot, doesn't mean anything, don't worry about it. Wave if you feel like, don't worry about if they wave or not, doesn't matter.
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Don't draft without permission, express or implied (as in a group ride). Stop worrying about whether people wave.
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mkadam68: Thanks for the link. And thank you all for some of the info. Went out this morning with no issues. I do the majority of my runs/bikes during the week and the majority of the "serious" riders i see are on the weekends. Although i am entered in a biathlon this Sunday. 5 mile run then a 20 mile bike. So i suppose we will see if i piss anyone off. There is no drafting so no worries with that.
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Originally Posted by kgressler View Post
I noticed alot of "serious" riders refuse to wave as passing the opposite way. I always acknowledge other riders and runners. So thus far it doesnt seem as friendly as runners normally are. Is this the norm?
It seems to be the norm and frankly, I don't understand it. This has not been the case in other hobbies and/or sports I've taken up over the years. I always acknowledge other riders and I feel good when I do. None reciprocate.
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Originally Posted by kgressler View Post
I have yet rode with anyone. I always ride alone with access to 100+ miles of paved trail's a mile from my home there are normally alot of bike out of all different levels.
I recent switched from a mountain bike to a road bike. And before i would easily pass many of the slower road bikes.(I averaged around 17 to 17.5 mph) But would get passed by some of the better riders.
Now that I am starting to ride a road bike (only 2 rides under my belt). I can see my self trying to keep up with some of these guys who are going 19+mph. Is there any etiquette i should follow when doing so?
These trails are non-motorized vehicles only. So its basicly stay to the right pass on the left. But any help informing me of some of the do's and dont i should follow.
I noticed alot of "serious" riders refuse to wave as passing the opposite way. I always acknowledge other riders and runners. So thus far it doesnt seem as friendly as runners normally are. Is this the norm? What about riding with or trying to keep pace with other riders?
Again any help with these questions and any anything to may have to offer would be great.

Thanks In Advance
they aren't waving back!!!?!?! WUT? odd

rules are...STFU & HTFU and go on some group rides to learn etiquette. You'll pick up on it real quick and if you don't somebody will tell you. I'd stick with the c and b groups for awhile even if they are slower paced than you but you'll learn a bit and gain some comfort
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Although i am entered in a biathlon this Sunday. 5 mile run then a 20 mile bike. So i suppose we will see if i piss anyone off. There is no drafting so no worries with that.
If you are not carrying a rifle, it's not a biathlon! But it still sounds like fun.
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mkadam68: Thanks for the link. And thank you all for some of the info. Went out this morning with no issues. I do the majority of my runs/bikes during the week and the majority of the "serious" riders i see are on the weekends. Although i am entered in a DUATHLON this Sunday. 5 mile run then a 20 mile bike. So i suppose we will see if i piss anyone off. There is no drafting so no worries with that.
Fixed it...
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Well a Duathlon is a Run Bike Run. So its not a Duathlon. And while I understand a rifle is involved with a biathlon this is what they are calling it so this is why i used the term.
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on dont follow a strangers wheel, stay back or pass.
I had some chick sucking on my wheel, without my knowledge. (guess it was nice drafting behind a MtB)
she got piss at me for making a sudden move. a true Wtf moment.
I made a quick stop when a kid ran into the road in front of me after a ball, and a drafter I didn't know was behind me slid out sideways, came to a stop next to me, and said "beside you." Another WTF moment. I wonder if he was related to that woman sucking your wheel?
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rules are...STFU & HTFU
Life would be so much better if everyone were required to follow these rules.
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If you are not carrying a rifle, it's not a biathlon! But it still sounds like fun.
How cool would that be?

Cyclocross biathlon... ride the course, hop off the bike, take 5 shots at a target with your .22 rifle. Then do it all over again another 9 times.


Or a new pentathalon - take your typical Tri and add rifle and pistol events. A modern version of the modern pentathalon - with the bike replacing the horse (both transportation), and the pistol replacing the swordplay (both sidearms). Well... i guess modern pent uses pistols already, so the rifle would replace the swordplay.

By putting the shooting events in the middle of the bike and run portions, it forces you to carry the gear with you from the previous transition, which does all sorts of interesting things (bicycle mounted rifle, running with a holstered pistol).

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How cool would that be?

Cyclocross biathlon... ride the course, hop off the bike, take 5 shots at a target with your .22 rifle.
Not nearly as cool as hopping off the bike and taking 5 shots at passing cars with an RPG!

But hey, I'm the guy who has been permanently banned from my hometown country club for 30 some years for inventing a sport called TrapGolf.
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Originally Posted by SSRI View Post
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on dont follow a strangers wheel, stay back or pass.
I had some chick sucking on my wheel, without my knowledge. (guess it was nice drafting behind a MtB)
she got piss at me for making a sudden move. a true Wtf moment.
Yes, I always let the rider know. Have not been refused yet! Sometimes it's like catching a flying train in time. Hovering close to the left or right of the person's wheel. Yes, it's risky. Especially nice when behind an attractive lady. I block those naughty thoughts till after the freeby draft

I think in the future, if someone is hovering and I notice them, I will ask if they wish to draft. Don't want to have them angry at me for stopping suddenly!

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How cool would that be?

Cyclocross biathlon... ride the course, hop off the bike, take 5 shots at a target with your .22 rifle. Then do it all over again another 9 times.

That would be cool as ****.
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Cyclocross arhcery-biathlon with the exception of compound bows.
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Cyclocross arhcery-biathlon with the exception of compound bows.
Seems like we're stepping backwards in time. Go Genghis Khan followers!
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