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Buying a new road / hybrid bike

Old 08-03-11, 01:33 PM
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Buying a new road / hybrid bike

Hi

I'm 19 years old and am in the market for a new bicycle.

My current (former) bike is a Scott USA MTB which was purchased in 2004 and is now too small.

I've only ever really used the bike on roads, and have done several 50 mile trips on it (and plan to do an 80-mile cycle road in the next month or so,) so it seems sensible for my next bike to have thinner tyres.

I'm leaning towards a road bike, although some people make a good case for a hybrid; in my situation, what'd you recommend and also what kind of price would you recommend?

I have been having a look in my local bike stockist, and am quite interested in the Orbea Aqua range. The Orbea Aqua T23 is on at £499 and the Aqua TSR is £599.

http://www.orbea.com/us-us/bicis/modelos/aqua_t23/#

http://www.orbea.com/au-us/bicis/modelos/aqua_tsr/#

Are these good value for money and is the extra £100 between the T23 and TSR justified?

Also, what size do you think I should purchase; 51, 54, 57 or 60? I'm around 5'11-6'0 and I usually buy trousers with leg length 30-32.

Thanks in advance
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Also, re haggling at a bike stockist.

Would I go in and test ride a bike (say the Aqua T23,) and then ask them what their best price is, or offer them £400?

Or would it be better to try and get free / discounted accesories thrown in?
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Third thing (my brain is on fire tonight!)

I've used toe clips once before and really hated them. Are clipless (cleated) pedals easier to adjust to?
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The stock group on the TSR is Shimano Sora and that should be a slightly better group than (what is considered) bottom of the line 2300. Haggling is of course to be expected, however, I do not believe that there is much room for negotiations on bike prices as they are dictated by the manufacturer and the profit margin is narrow. I do not know the practice in your part of the world so I cannot advice on that part.

In the US, the discount is mostly on the accessories and other bike schwag.

As far as sizing is concerned, try one of the on-line fit calculators and use it as a baseline. Then go to your LBS with these numbers in mind, but, they should be better equipped to do a fitting than some bloke on the internet

What did you hate about clipless?
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I hated the toe clips; haven't yet tried the clipless.

So, do you believe the £100 price jump between the two models is justified?
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What is the standard haggling room in the UK on bikes; 20%, 10% or do people just try and get accessories?
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I hated the toe clips; haven't yet tried the clipless.

So, do you believe the £100 price jump between the two models is justified?
In my personal opion, it is justified. If you can save more money, you should go with at least a Shimano 105 group, this will keep from wanting to upgrade too early on in the game. And, believe me, the upgrade bug is an insanity all unto itself. Realistically and practically, there is nothing wrong with the Sora group, others will vehemently disagree.
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What is the standard haggling room in the UK on bikes; 20%, 10% or do people just try and get accessories?
As I have stated above, I have absolutely no idea about the haggling room in the UK. I have heard 10% is common in the US. Most people, at least those that I have known try to negotiate on the accessories.
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Also, is it worth considering a city / commuter / comfort / hybrid model or should I just focus on the road bikes?
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Also, is it worth considering a city / commuter / comfort / hybrid model or should I just focus on the road bikes?
Road bike end of story.
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Joe_5700 - do you think out of the 2 bikes I listed the £100 price jump is justified in terms of performance?
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Ask the same question on hybrid forum you´d pretty much get the same answers. Its all about what kind of riding you´ll be doing. A road bike is a specialized piece of equipment. And like every specialized gadget it has its limitations. The hybrid on the other hand is often refered to as versitale - and they are. They handle just about anything and that includes serious speed. But if you aspire to do long and fast runs on roads the roadie would be the obvious choice. Thats what they are built for.
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Joe_5700 - do you think out of the 2 bikes I listed the £100 price jump is justified in terms of performance?
My Jamis came with 2200 shifters and front derailleur and they have been perfect. I would seriously go to the shop and test ride the T23(2300) and TSR(Sora) as well as the TTG(Tiagra) and T105(105). The difference between 2300 and Sora is pretty small. Sora is however now a 9 speed over 8 for 2300. If you want the bike now but might upgrade in the distant future then get the T23. If you see yourself as someone who may want to upgrade in a few months, save up for the T105.
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I did a 50 mile ride a few years back on my MTB which took just under 4 hrs.

On a specialist road bike such as the Orbeas we've discussed, assuming all other things being equal, how much quicker could I do this route?
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It's so hard to choose with there being so many bikes to choose from!
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Originally Posted by benjyco View Post
I did a 50 mile ride a few years back on my MTB which took just under 4 hrs.

On a specialist road bike such as the Orbeas we've discussed, assuming all other things being equal, how much quicker could I do this route?
That is impossible to estimate without you doing the same exact route with the same exact wind conditions. Just add a few mph to your average to guestimate.
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It's so hard to choose with there being so many bikes to choose from!
Are you in the UK? If so, take a good look at Cube and Ghost bikes since there are dealers there.
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Should I consider looking at Halfords?
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Should I consider looking at Halfords?
Consider everything that is within your budget. Fit is first and foremost.
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