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Carbon Fiber issue resolved

Old 08-03-11, 04:19 PM
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Carbon Fiber issue resolved

Howdy. A while back I posted about me falling over and chipping the seat stay on my Madone. I searched this place top to bottom looking for a reputable CF repair shop. Many recommended Calfee or RR Vello. I spoke to them both as well as several others. At the end of the day I went with Carbon Frame Repair. They service the 5 Trek Superstores in San Diego. I called them all and they were more than pleased with the work.

I just got an email that the repair is done. He even posted it on the website. Thought I'd share: http://www.carbonframerepair.com/index.php/trek-madone/

Thanks to all for the help along the way. Oh and I'm still looking for a back up bike. But now it's on the "back" burner.
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Old 08-03-11, 04:36 PM
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looks great man. how much did it cost if you dont mind me asking
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They did a great job with the paint!
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Looks like new!
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Old 08-03-11, 04:48 PM
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looks great man. how much did it cost if you dont mind me asking
I don't mind. Let me get the bill so I know what the bottom line is and i'll let you know.
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Old 08-03-11, 05:38 PM
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Wow they do great work, I'll keep them in mind should I ever unfortunately need the services.
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Looks like new. From the photos, you can't even tell it was damaged. Whatever the cost, I'm sure it will be a lot less than buying a new frame.
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that looks very cosmetic. who know though. i had the unfortunate chance of having a steel wire fly into my front wheel. the steel wire chewed up my fork pretty well. took it to a bike shop and said it was cosmetic. the damages look very similar to yours. it has been 500 miles without a hitch. who knows though, CF blows up.
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It wasn't cosmetic. You could press your thumb into the cf and feel the strands. Three different LBS said it was condemned. Wish it was cosmetic. Oh well.
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Very impressive.
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Wow. They do a pretty sweet Di2 install, too.
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A friend's CF mountain bike 'exploded'. That was the word he used - he said it was so loud that he thought a bomb had gone off as he was flying through the air. The front end of his bike broke off and his face plant put him in hospital for a week.

The repaired Trek looks great, but the idea of repaired CF makes me nervous!
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Repairing carbon stuff isn't a radical concept, any more than repairing fibreglass.

Pulling it off so neatly is impressive, though. I'm tipping these guys know what they're doing.
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A friend's CF mountain bike 'exploded'. That was the word he used - he said it was so loud that he thought a bomb had gone off as he was flying through the air. The front end of his bike broke off and his face plant put him in hospital for a week.

The repaired Trek looks great, but the idea of repaired CF makes me nervous!

Repaired carbon is actually more likely to explode. The repair shops are all owned by unsavory types that sometimes place explosive devices inside the frame to send a "message."
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Repaired carbon is actually more likely to explode. The repair shops are all owned by unsavory types that sometimes place explosive devices inside the frame to send a "message."
I thought it was a conspiracy by the oil companies to get us off our bikes and into our cars.
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That was never chiped looks great
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I thought it was a conspiracy by the oil companies to get us off our bikes and into our cars.
Rumor has it the oil companies are the masterminds behind it all. They're good though, it has never been proven.
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Originally Posted by Kimmo View Post
Wow. They do a pretty sweet Di2 install, too.
It's like building a robot. I would hate to think of maintaining electrical connections buried in the frame.

...and that repair looks like new. Well done. Eager to see what it cost.
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It's like building a robot. I would hate to think of maintaining electrical connections buried in the frame.

...and that repair looks like new. Well done. Eager to see what it cost.
The wiring all looks very accessible to me. getting inside and out of the weather should help things
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What does this do to the lifetime warranty? TREK's all cool with this, or did you have to contact them first to be refered to this repairer?

BTW, I'd be asking for a huge discount due to the free advertising they got on here.
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What does this do to the lifetime warranty? TREK's all cool with this, or did you have to contact them first to be refered to this repairer?

BTW, I'd be asking for a huge discount due to the free advertising they got on here.
I don't know that they'd honor the lifetime warranty if it wasn't done anyway. If it wasn't repaired and he just left it, and another part of the bike failed they'd likely say "well, you crashed it, so it wasn't manufacturer defect."

On the other hand, now if something else fails they may not even notice the repaired carbon and honor the lifetime warranty. You'd have to decide whether or not to tell them I suppose.
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Repaired carbon is actually more likely to explode. The repair shops are all owned by unsavory types that sometimes place explosive devices inside the frame to send a "message."
I thought it was a conspiracy by the oil companies to get us off our bikes and into our cars.
Rumor has it the oil companies are the masterminds behind it all. They're good though, it has never been proven.
They're having a bet each way; it takes an arseload of oil to make carbon fibre ; )
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Originally Posted by Kimmo View Post
Repairing carbon stuff isn't a radical concept, any more than repairing fibreglass.

Pulling it off so neatly is impressive, though. I'm tipping these guys know what they're doing.
Yah, by doing such an extensive repair, they are ensuring that it will be good. I.e. they repaired and removed enough area that they are sure that it's fully repaired. Kind of like how exploratory surgery is done when there's any question of the scope.
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Originally Posted by ErichM View Post
I don't know that they'd honor the lifetime warranty if it wasn't done anyway. If it wasn't repaired and he just left it, and another part of the bike failed they'd likely say "well, you crashed it, so it wasn't manufacturer defect."

On the other hand, now if something else fails they may not even notice the repaired carbon and honor the lifetime warranty. You'd have to decide whether or not to tell them I suppose.
not to someone who knows what they are looking at, 25 years in FRP/GRP and other forms of composite manufacture & repairs. The repairs look extremely professional, but a warranty is only applicable to defects from the manufacture process. And from experience, the majority of claimed failures have a high, "I didn't do anything" proclamation that changes to, "well it was only a minor bump".
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What does this do to the lifetime warranty? TREK's all cool with this, or did you have to contact them first to be refered to this repairer?

BTW, I'd be asking for a huge discount due to the free advertising they got on here.
Unfortunately the price to replace the frame was well out of hand. In their eyes, the bike was condemned and the only way to continue any warranties would have been new frame. A lifetime warranty from Trek would be any cracking or splintering from natural causes. If another area goes out on it's own, then I'll see what happens.

As for discounted price, their price was a discount compared to Calfee. There have been questions with regards to stability. I'm going to email Kurt and see if he'd like to come on here and discuss that.
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