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these new $10K bikes.....are we crazy???

Old 08-05-11, 09:10 PM
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I could afford a 10K bike, have no desire to buy one though. Heck, I hate reading reviews of uber expensive bikes because the whole time I am thinking that the value to price ratio for me is too skewed to the price side of the equation. I kind of wished publications would review more moderately priced bikes.
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Old 08-05-11, 09:38 PM
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I could afford a 10K bike, have no desire to buy one though. Heck, I hate reading reviews of uber expensive bikes because the whole time I am thinking that the value to price ratio for me is too skewed to the price side of the equation. I kind of wished publications would review more moderately priced bikes.
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Ive got a $14000 Colnago C59 Italia Di2. I love it and don't regret buying it, it's the best toy Ive ever had - even up there with my jet ski. It would only be silly if you need to get a loan in order to buy one.
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OK, now back to the question at hand.

If a person wants a $10K or a $15K or even a $20K bike and he or she can afford it (and by that I mean not taking money away from the family's budget or going into debt) then the person should get it and enjoy it. Your money your choices!

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Old 08-05-11, 11:51 PM
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FWIW, I get a lot more enjoyment from my $2000 bike than my $30,000 car.
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Old 08-05-11, 11:57 PM
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Nothing wrong with having a 10k+ dollar bike, but you sure as hell will be embarrassed if you're not fast
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Old 08-06-11, 12:54 AM
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Watch it, you're going to get the decrepit Montgomery Burns/Doochey Gordon Gecko crowd chanting "If you can afford it, why not flaunt it?". The Roadie equivalent of the Trust Fund Hipster Kids [probably their offspring] who can barely stop on their Dual Arrospok equipped NJS whip with the riser bars.
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Old 08-06-11, 06:19 AM
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I remember reading about this couple who won the Lotto and decided they wanted to start traveling for pleasure. Instead of paying the extra for first class, they took coach and put the money they saved towards a charity. They kept their house from their not-lotto winner years and drove the same vehicles. I remember they said they didn't feel the need to buy "rich people $#!t." Doesn't have much to do with this thread except that not every "rich" person feels the need to flaunt their wealth, some actually do contribute to the common good and to the less fortunate and in my mind a $10,000.00 bike is "rich people $#!t."
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There will always be the poor and the rich. Wealth is relative. To justify purchases either way is a waste of time. Having a computer to type this thread may be considered "rich" to someone, while a 10k bike may be "cheap" to the uber wealthy who don't know what to do with their money...
If you can afford it and be appreciative of the purchase, then I believe no one should look down upon that, whether that is a 500 bike or a 10k bike.
The mentality that success is measured by wealth is false. It should be rather success measured by being content with where you are in life. If you are constantly looking "above" and desiring things, then perhaps you can do things to change your "status" in life aka get more education, move to a different location for a better job but lower cost of living etc.
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try to keep the politics out of this, please. Wouldn't want to move it to P&R.

I think I could get all the bike I want for less than $5k, but I can see spending $10k. My neighbor has a boat that cost him at least $10k, and I think he gets less use out of it than I get out of my bikes.
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It seems to me that the attitude "what's mine is mine...sorry about ya you lazy dumbass."
You are making assumptions that are not supported by anything stated on my post.

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doesn't have much to do with riding a bicycle so I'll just leave it and say I do realize others think and see the current times differently than me.
I can agree on that...
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Old 08-06-11, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by unterhausen View Post
try to keep the politics out of this, please. Wouldn't want to move it to P&R.

I think I could get all the bike I want for less than $5k, but I can see spending $10k. My neighbor has a boat that cost him at least $10k, and I think he gets less use out of it than I get out of my bikes.
I have been into high performance offshore boats for about 15 years. Bikes in comparison are very affordable, and I get more use out of my bikes. Everything is relative though. Compared to boating, my cars are cheap and compared to my cars my Harley is cheap. If you can afford the toy and want to spend the cash do it. You only live once.
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Old 08-06-11, 10:45 AM
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By the way, it seems to me that today's high-end bikes are far more expensive than in the past, presumably due to the costs of CF design and manufacturing.

E.g. a 1995 Cannondale SR 2000 with a 6061 frame and full DA ran around $3,500 (or $5,000 in 2010 dollars).

I.e. the price of Unobtanium may have doubled since 1995.
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Old 08-06-11, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JoelS View Post
What kind of problem do you (as in the OP) have with successful people that can afford spend that kind of money on a bike? They earned the money, they can spend it on whatever they want.
You have to acknowledge the huge wealth gap between the rich and the average people in the US. The greatest in the "developed" world. Of course this breeds some level of contempt, which people try to rationalize.

Also, many were born into money in the first place. I'm not complaining about wealthy people, as that's my business base, but you have to acknowledge that it isn't a 1:1 ratio of what you "deserve" to what you get.

I'd totally buy 5 superbikes if I could afford it, and leave them locked up outside.
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$10,000.00 for a bike? That's outrageous!
I wouldn't spend a penny over $8,500.00.
Hey, that is what I spent!!!
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Old 08-06-11, 11:54 AM
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I work my ass off and I'm going to spend my earnings on anything I want. Besides, I'm usually distracted by the deafening sound of my breathing, while clawing up a hill, to care what others think. Cycling is supposed to be fun. Less hate, more pedaling. GL
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I am an immigrant from a place where there are only the "wealthy" and the "poor". And I can say I do not ever want to live in that kind of society again. The wealthy there have all kind of health problems (think hypertension, anxiety attack, depression etc) from their being unable to sleep at night peacefully.

My brother, who is super-wealthy, calls me here when he should be sleeping, and when I ask him why, he confesses that he can't sleep because he has to keep an eye on his five night security guards and guard dogs to make sure they are not sleeping on the job. And he lives in a neighborhood that is comparable to Beverly Hills in SoCal (and he has very high fences surrounding his property).

That is why I do not mind paying my fair share of taxes here. I do not, repeat, do not ever want to live in a society of just haves and have-nots.

My only beef is that our taxes are being wasted on self-aggrandizing/pet projects of our politicians. We can all see the infrastructure decay all around us, while taxes keep going up, especially in SoCal where I live. All the time, when I am out on my bike, I can see the roads getting progressively worse over time.

And I lump all the politicos together, whether Dems or Republicans.
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And then it went political, the end................
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My bike cost $9300 and I'm old fat and slow. I lost more than that in the stock market this week and have nothing to show for that. I worked hard all my life and will buy anything I want and I don't feel a bit bad that I'm slow. People who shop for bikes at walmart think $300 is too much to pay for a bike.
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People who shop for bikes at walmart think $300 is too much to pay for a bike.
That's a good point. Every so often, a homeless guy or some random stranger will ask me how much my bike cost while I'm waiting at a light. I say "oh - a few hundred bucks;" and they say "It must be really nice!"
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Shall I move this to P and R? A majority of this thread seems to be that way. I'm not going to clean it up. Please stay on topic.
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There's a guy that rides at the same bike path I ride at that has a new Lotus and rides ad older steel frame road bike he hauls on a custom made bike rack. There are guys at the same park driving older, economy cars riding 4 and 5K bikes. I think it depends on your priorities and what makes you feel better. Personally, I have a $1,200 bike and a 6 year old truck. But what do I know, I spent around $8,000 customizing my 02 PT Cruiser.
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Laughing at the sports car/bike comparisons. I've told this story before, but it is worth repeating here. I'm a Porsche mechanic. I ride to work on occasion. I had one of my bikes on my work bench when Doctor Youngwife wants to see the bottom of his Turbo that I'm working on. Eventually he starts looking at my bike. He finally asks how much a bike like that costs. I tell him around $6000. "You spent $6000 for a bike?" "You spent $150,000 for a car?" It's all relative.
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Only crazy if you buy it and don't ride it.
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