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Unusual to adjust seating position so soon after new bike fit?

Old 08-18-11, 07:56 PM
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Unusual to adjust seating position so soon after new bike fit?

I bought my first new road bike in over 20 years this past Monday; work and family commitments have kept me busy until today (only had a 3-miler "around the block" the first day), and after nice 45 minute break-in ride this evening, I have already adjusted the saddle - tilted it up a bit, and moved it back.

The final adjustment that was made during my fitting earlier in the week was to move the saddle forward, to get the whole knee-over-the-center-of-the-pedal for better applied force... I thought the previous setting was just fine, but deferred to the knowledge of the guy at the LBS.

The reason I adjusted it back was that, when I am down on the drops, I can see part of the front wheel hub in front of the bars, which I have always heard and read should not be visible in a correct riding position. Also, I am accustomed to the flatter geometry of the older-style road bikes, with the handlebar drops horizontal, and with my back in a flatter position than the 45-degree angle I kept seeing in my shadow.

Am I headed in the wrong direction here? How much personal preference vs. professional advice should be considered... in other words, should I have left well enough alone, and just tried out the bike shop guy's settings for a while?
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Old 08-18-11, 08:01 PM
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Doesn't seem like you gave the fit enough time to sink in. However, it also sounds like you have a clue what you're talking about so who knows.
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Old 08-18-11, 08:04 PM
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I have had a similar experience with a fit. The "measurements" keep pointing to raising my seat to a point that causes me knee pain. I listened to my body and put the seat down a little and have been much more comfortable. My thoughts would be to stay with the fit unless it is causing you some manner of discomfort beyond just getting used to the new positioning.

Have you considered asking about a different stem, or perhaps a bike with a longer top tube rather than to move your legs out of the "proper" position?
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Old 08-19-11, 04:27 AM
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The saddle is adjusted around your knee, the sight of the front hub through the bars is an old wives tale (so is knee over pedal spindle in my opnion but others will dis agree) but if it bothers you that much you should change stem length rather than move you seat. On the other hand comfort is all that matters so if you were comfortable you should have kept it rather than move it to satisfy a misguided old saying which has no founding
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Old 08-19-11, 05:08 AM
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I was comfortable before the LBS guy made his final adjustment (saddle forward)... but more time on the bike will hopefully be more informative.
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Old 08-19-11, 05:18 AM
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Merckx was known to adjust saddle during a race if given the opportunity. Adjusting sadddle is often a constant preoccupation until you settle in and forgetaboutit.
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from what I have heard, the "seeing the hub" thing is when you are in the hoods, not in the drops. if you are in the drops, of course you will see it because you are now bringing your center of gravity lower. I would put it back and try it for a bit. if it doesn't feel good, then adjust it. since you have been out of cycling for so long and geometries and technology has changed from what I'm sure you were riding back in the day, you may not know what to look for yet. That being said, if it doesn't feel right, adjust it till it does. A fitting, as I'm sure you understand can only do so much. IMO, a fit puts you at a great starting point and its up to you to make minor adjustments to your liking afterwards.
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Old 08-19-11, 06:57 AM
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KOPS(knee over pedal) and hub thing are not that accurate for everyone as far as fitting goes and being the rule of thumb. There are no rules of thumb except to do whatever is comfy for you. If I do KOPS, I have way too much weight on my arms since I have short legs and long torso. Plus my knees hurt and my center of gravity isn't very centered. If I hide the hub when on hoods, I am too far back...

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Old 08-19-11, 07:00 AM
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Pushing the saddle forward just so your knees are over the pedal spindle makes no sense if you were fine with the saddle back. I moved my saddle back after my fitting because my weight shifted forward to my hands and arms with the saddle forward.

A fit should make you more comfortable and efficient, if it doesn't, you have every right to change it.
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Old 08-19-11, 07:23 AM
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Yes, the saddle should be wherever it needs to be so that you are nicely balanced over the pedals without excessive weight on your hands. The fitter will have hopefully got you somewhere near that position. For you, that might have happened to be at KOPS. Worst case scenario is that the fitter just put you at KOPS without really analysing if that was right for you, because setting you up at KOPS is a kind of quick starting point which will put many people somewhere near the right position, but will also not be right for some.

If the fitter actually said something like you mentioned "KOPS..for better applied force" then I suspect the latter. But your own rationale for adjusting the position (bars over front axle) has no more or less sense than a KOPS fit, probably less.
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Old 08-19-11, 02:25 PM
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My rationale for adjusting the saddle back was more with getting back into the position I was used to (flatter back on the drops) than with hiding the front axle. I'm going to try this out for a ride or two, and can always move it forward if it doesn't work out...
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