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opinion on purchasing a "new" 2009 Specialized Tarmac Pro SL

Old 08-22-11, 09:49 AM
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opinion on purchasing a "new" 2009 Specialized Tarmac Pro SL

My LBS has a new 2009 Tarmac Pro SL Sram, that I am considering buying.

Here is the specs from the Specialized site
http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/...3&menuItemId=0

It has mostly Sram Red with the exception of the brakes, and the front derailleur are Force. Also it does not have the stock wheels, It has a set of DT Swiss wheels. I am not sure of the model, but I was told they are a $1500 set of wheels.

So the retail on this bike is $5000, and they said they will sell it for $3000.
Looking for thoughts opinions on whether or not this is worth it.

TIA

Edit: More info on the wheels that are on the bike: They are actually Roval wheels, not DT Swiss.

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/catego...lset-09-33819/

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Old 08-22-11, 09:58 AM
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I'd do it.
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SL2 Frame, Awesome Components and a great ride for 3000? and its new. Yup Pull the trigger.
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3K? That's a great price and basically the price that the 2009 Expert would have sold for. DO it. If they are the Mon Chablah blah wheels, then awesome too.
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Totally agree. The SL2 is a good frame and at this price, don't worry one bit about SL3 and SL4. Very good components and great bike for $3,000.
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Don't you find it strange that a brand new bike is missing factory wheels? I would call it "used" bike for $3K, which may still be a good deal.
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Hmm that is a little odd given that the stock wheels are not exactly chickenfeed (Mavic Ksyrium SL).

I'd be curious if it was ridden then returned, built up and someone walked before buying it, or what.
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Thanks for the quick replies!
One of my concerns was that i may be able to get a Tarmac Expert SL3 in the next few months for around the same price, granted someone still had on is stock in my size.....

I think I am going to jump on this!
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Originally Posted by ColinL View Post
Hmm that is a little odd given that the stock wheels are not exactly chickenfeed (Mavic Ksyrium SL).

I'd be curious if it was ridden then returned, built up and someone walked before buying it, or what.
Not at all. This happens from time to time at an LBS for various reasons. More likely, a customer put down a deposit for the bike w/ those wheels. The shop got those said wheels, put them on and the customer backed out. The Ksyriums are going to sell no matter what because of name recognition, so they decided to sell those as regular aftermarket wheels and kept the DTswiss with the bike. I've seen this happen several times.
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Originally Posted by ColinL View Post
Hmm that is a little odd given that the stock wheels are not exactly chickenfeed (Mavic Ksyrium SL).

I'd be curious if it was ridden then returned, built up and someone walked before buying it, or what.
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Don't you find it strange that a brand new bike is missing factory wheels? I would call it "used" bike for $3K, which may still be a good deal.

I made a mistake, the wheels on it are actually Roval, but I was told they are made by DT Swiss.

The story was that they sold the stock Mavics, and had the Rovals in the shop so they put those on the bike. The name recognition of the Mavics made it easier to sell them for $1000 rather than trying to sell the Rovals for $1500.
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If it were me, I would find out more on the wheels... Just because the shop says they are 1,500 wheels does not mean much.

GL either way.
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Originally Posted by BIG EYE View Post
I made a mistake, the wheels on it are actually Roval, but I was told they are made by DT Swiss.

The story was that they sold the stock Mavics, and had the Rovals in the shop so they put those on the bike. The name recognition of the Mavics made it easier to sell them for $1000 rather than trying to sell the Rovals for $1500.
so the plot thickens
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I called them and got more info on the wheels. They are Roval Roubaix 322x (Roval is Specialized in house wheel)

Seem like a decent wheel based on this. (My LBS also offers free maintenance for life, so if they got out of true, they would be ones fixing it)

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/catego...lset-09-33819/
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I'd ask them to sell it without the wheels.
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Yep, I would not buy those wheels under any circumstances. That is actually a poor review that was written politely rather than harshly.

If they want to deliver the bike to you with wheels, ask for Mavic Ksyrium SL to be reinstalled. If that doesn't work (which I doubt it will, unless the price goes up), then try for Ksyrium Elites. They're a tad heavier and don't have a carbon front hub, and definitely cheaper.
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I'd ask them to sell it without the wheels.
I don't have another set of wheels to put on it....
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Originally Posted by ColinL View Post
Yep, I would not buy those wheels under any circumstances. That is actually a poor review that was written politely rather than harshly.

If they want to deliver the bike to you with wheels, ask for Mavic Ksyrium SL to be reinstalled. If that doesn't work (which I doubt it will, unless the price goes up), then try for Ksyrium Elites. They're a tad heavier and don't have a carbon front hub, and definitely cheaper.

I was thinking of asking for a different set of wheels before I researched these for the simple fact that I don't really like the way they look. I just want to be prepared to know if I am still getting a good deal with the Rovals in the event they cannot/will not exchange the wheels.
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I don't think you could sell those wheels easily for more than $400-500 assuming you lack the original box for them, and it looks like they were a very short-lived model. (They don't make them anymore but I don't know what years they were produced.) The only selling point will be the fairly low weight.

There's one set on ebay right now for $725 or best offer. Yeah right!
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So if I NOT successful at getting them to switch out the wheels for the stock Mavic's or something close, do you still think this is worth it for $3000?
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Yeah, they're still pretty solid wheels. They'd be like a lighter, less durable set of Ksyrium elites. Ask them what else they can do. Get the bike with Ksyrium elites. Great wheels. Or ask if they have any Fulcrum 3's they'd be willing to part with.
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Right... for $3,000 you need *some* wheels in the package. The bike without wheels is not a good deal at that price.

I just think that these particular wheels are not your best option. The shop probably realizes this, but I bet they are keen to dump these wheels just as we are keen to warn you against them.
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Thanks all! I am going to pick this bike up, probably tomorrow. I hope that I am successful in getting them to switch out the wheels, but if not, I think I will still be happy with it.

I will definitely be an upgrade from the Allez Sport with Sora and Tiagra I am riding now
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Originally Posted by matroskin View Post
so the plot thickens
You don't know the bike business do you?
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Originally Posted by BIG EYE View Post
Thanks all! I am going to pick this bike up, probably tomorrow. I hope that I am successful in getting them to switch out the wheels, but if not, I think I will still be happy with it.

I will definitely be an upgrade from the Allez Sport with Sora and Tiagra I am riding now
hate to be a nay sayer, but those wheels look like a maintenance nightmare. Box section with hidden nipples - I can understand why they never sold the bike. no matter how good the wheels are, being able to do light maintenance is important. And box-section rims - ancient tech. There's just no way they're gonna hold up as well as a newer, deeper section rim.
Let them sell the bike without the wheels and then go get your own...
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wheels will work for now, save the cash and get the bike then upgrade the wheels. sooner rather than later, but I put 2000 miles on that exact wheelset and they were fine. im 6'2" 180
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