rjones28 

Somebody alert the press.

WhyFi

They'll never believe it.

BillyD

SA, I know you prefer to spar with Pcad, but can I get in a preliminary word?

That's not what rebadging is. Rebadging is literally replacing one name with another, or replacing the outer shell with another, and the vehicles are essentially the same under the skin. I once owned a '91 Lexus 250, the first year they started the Lexus line of cars. That car was literally a (semi-) luxury Toyota Camry with an "L" on it, a pimped Camry so to speak.

But in the following years up through the present, Toyota and Lexus' make totally different cars. Just because there's considerable overlap in features and styles and looks doesn't make them the same car. And just because Toyota is the parent company of Lexus and Honda is the parent company of Acura does not mean the Luxury vehicles are rebadged. If that were the case you'd hear a firestorm of protest from indignant, snooty Lexus and Acura owners.

WhyFi

Fixed for accuracy - it's a little too one-sided to call it "sparring."

LowCel 

patentcad

Hey S.A., try not to imply that you have a clue about automotive design, because you don't.

RUOkie

I am disappointed pcad. You can do better.

DropDeadFred

but in all fairness you can take many of the body components from each and swap them out because of the frames/unibody structure being the same. It's common practice in the aftermarket world to do such swaps. In the Honda/acura scene its popular to do the JDM (japanese domestic market) swaps because Acura does not exist in Japan. You the same MDX with a honda badge, thus making it a rebadged honda. (I didn't do any looking in to wether the MDX is even sold in japan but the same could be said for the TSX etc.)

Soloist Assassin

They like PCAD are too self absorbed, and delusional to believe it. As I showed months ago in their home country of Japan the luxury vehicles sold here, have badges of the parent company, and until recent years Acura and Lexus vehicles didn't even exist.

Soloist Assassin

correct

BillyD

Irrelevant . . . means nothing. They used to take the 22R engine out of Toyota Celicas and put them in Chevy Novas to make the Nova a kickass running car. Does that make the Nova a rebadged Celica . . . not bloody likely. In the auto world and in amateur garages all across the land these things are done routinely.

Just because there's some overlap in parts doesn't mean it's rebadged. Now if the overlap in parts approached the 50% mark then I'd start wondering about rebadging. But who really knows that other than the OEM engineers and auto parts experts.

Soloist Assassin

If you pop the plastic cover off of the engine on any Acura you will discover a Honda engine. The engine in the mdx is the same engine in the ridgeline and the pilot. Saturn also bought some of those engines for the early v6 vues. That's totally different than what Honda and Toyota do rebaging vehicles in certain markets?

sbxx1985 

Back to cars, I see.

Here's my contribution: my 2003 Discovery, purchased in 2004 with 6k miles, just hit 60k miles this weekend. Since 2004 was the last model year, I can't imagine there are many others out there with mileage that low. What does it all mean? Absolutely nothing.

Carry on.

sbxx1985 

In other news, I've decided on the KCNC C7s for Christmas. After little thought, I'm also switching from the Reynolds pads to the SS Yellows.

CC reports that LW rebadges SS pads and supplies them with their wheels. That's interesting.

patentcad

Why bother? It's like trying to convince that moron that guns are stupid, which he will only learn after he shoots a loved one.

patentcad

The fact that this sled is still actually running is utterly astonishing, and almost defies all credulity.

sbxx1985 

Excellent local Rover mechanic. He likes Stella.

I'd be screwed otherwise.

WhyFi

Since I'm a Brooklynite, I can't talk about my grocery-getter, but we did recently get the NYC equivalent -



I'm really ashamed at how much I like this damn thing.

WhyFi

BTW, this makes me think that I should start an all-CF stroller company. I'd love to see the mommy message boards explode with the low-end CF vs high-end AL debate.

patentcad

Rovers are great when they're running. Which isn't often. Very sad, the cars do rock. Glad you have a good local independent mechanic, that's the key.

rjones28 

Maclaren and Porsche beat you to the punch.

rjones28 

Jeep Wranglers aren't rebadged anything.

rjones28 

... even by SA's standards.

patentcad

fify

DropDeadFred

its not irrelevant when I can buy a rebadged car brand new. Get an "acura" with honda badges in Japan. And a 22r in a nova is a stretch because its not a direct bolt.