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Felt F75 or CAAD 10 4 Rival

Old 08-23-11, 04:07 PM
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Felt F75 or CAAD 10 4 Rival

These two are on the top of my list for replacing my current steed.

Usage will be limited to the 5% road race/duathlon, 5% Cat5 at PIR next year, and 90% commuting.

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Felt F75

CAAD 10 4 Rival

Both are approximately the same price with similar components. I would prefer the SRAM, but it is not a deal breaker over the 105.

I have to find a shop to test ride these so I have not had first hand experience.

I would appreciate you experiences with CAAD 9-10 and the Felt F series. I am coming from an 853 steel frame with carbon fork to an AL frame with carbon fork and do not want to have my teeth rattled out as has been my past experience. I am not comfortable with carbon for commuting and the cost to weight ratio over AL is not there.

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Old 08-23-11, 04:30 PM
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I just test rode both of these bikes this morning. The f75 felt like a twitchy racecar while the caad10 was almost boring to ride. I seriously almost crashed the f75 from turning too sharp too fast. The F75 left a huge smile on my face after riding it 3 minutes, but I don't know how it would feel after 20+ miles and in higher speeds.

That said, I'm going to test ride the CAAD10 again soon to get a better idea of how it rides.
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Old 08-23-11, 05:04 PM
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I spent a weekend with both of them while looking for a new bike a while back. I'd say get the one that you find more aesthetically appealing, both will be great rides and do whatever you need, though you might want a few extra spacers for comfortable commuting.
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Old 08-23-11, 05:12 PM
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@KyleH - the near crash was that due to the operator, the bike geometry, or the craptastic tires going out from under?

@rpeterson - aesthetics are nice, but since they both have the nearly same form and function I am looking at performance. I agree with spacers, but I have a quill that I have slammed down and my seat is higher than the bar.
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Old 08-23-11, 05:17 PM
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The geometry is so close that they should be basically identical performance wise when set up the same. Put the same tires on each and I doubt you would be able to feel a difference. I know I couldn't after ~100 miles on each.
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Originally Posted by rpeterson View Post
The geometry is so close that they should be basically identical performance wise when set up the same. Put the same tires on each and I doubt you would be able to feel a difference. I know I couldn't after ~100 miles on each.
That is kinda what I figured, but I wanted to make sure the voices were not lying me.

Most shops allow a 30 min ride and I would take all of that and probably more to make sure that the bike is what I want. I will try to push hills and flats.
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Old 08-23-11, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by I_like_cereal View Post
@KyleH - the near crash was that due to the operator, the bike geometry, or the craptastic tires going out from under?
me being inexperienced mixed with the twitchier handling of the felt (versus CAAD10 and Allez).
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I'd go CAAD. IMO, Rival is much superior to 105. and lighter.
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Old 08-24-11, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by dayday82 View Post
I'd go CAAD. IMO, Rival is much superior to 105. and lighter.
I looked at the Allez with Apex. I am not sure about the lever sweep from right to left or left to right to drop the chain from big to little cog. Nor am I happy with Shimano's dual lever design. I like the Campy ergo shift in theory. I have not tried the campy yet.
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Originally Posted by Kyle H View Post
I just test rode both of these bikes this morning. The f75 felt like a twitchy racecar while the caad10 was almost boring to ride. I seriously almost crashed the f75 from turning too sharp too fast. The F75 left a huge smile on my face after riding it 3 minutes, but I don't know how it would feel after 20+ miles and in higher speeds.

That said, I'm going to test ride the CAAD10 again soon to get a better idea of how it rides.
Exaggerate much?
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Originally Posted by I_like_cereal View Post
I looked at the Allez with Apex. I am not sure about the lever sweep from right to left or left to right to drop the chain from big to little cog. Nor am I happy with Shimano's dual lever design. I like the Campy ergo shift in theory. I have not tried the campy yet.
I have Shimano on my other bike and have grown to love SRAM. It just makes more sense and shifts are quicker and more crisp. Apex might be more inline with 105. Give it a try.
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Originally Posted by hao View Post
Exaggerate much?
No, I honestly was shocked at the difference between the two. I actually lined them up next to each other after the ride to compare the setups.
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Old 08-29-11, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Kyle H View Post
No, I honestly was shocked at the difference between the two. I actually lined them up next to each other after the ride to compare the setups.
protip: the difference is all in your head

the two bikes are 99% identical
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CAAD 10 all the way.

Classic geometry and a good spec.
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Originally Posted by zazenzach View Post
protip: the difference is all in your head

the two bikes are 99% identical
Haha +1
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