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getting out of speedplay pedals

Old 08-31-11, 06:26 AM
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getting out of speedplay pedals

Just got set and i like them however i find it nearly impossible to get out of . I typically get out of my pedals while my right is at 6 O'Clock bearing my weight and the left is at 12 O'Clock. I unclip the left and put my foot down. With these my ankle cannot turn far enough in that position to allow me out.

ive tried to get out in the opposite way and it is so unnatural that it seems unsafe. ALso...i am able to get out in about 10 oclock position but that doesnt work well in emergency situations where you need to unclip quickly. If you have time to think way ahead it is fine.

Typically i ride to 6 and 12 and then pedal slightly backward to about 10oclock and then twist my ankle out. This works great with full weight on the saddle and time to do so.

I find myself uncliping way more often now for fear im not going to be able to get out in time...thus slowing me down and making my ride a stressfull nightmare. Ive only done about 100 miles in them so far so maybe i just need more time but im pretty sure my dismount isnt going to change in that time

I had hoped they would help with my knees.......but they really havent. I still get knee pain the next few days after doing 20 - 25miles. I had better luck in my mtb shoes and spd mountain pedals on my road bike. Easy in...easy out

Im kinda bummed because i actually bought road shoes to go with them as well. IM out about $250 for this little experiment so far.

IM going to ride them more and just hope i dont need to unclip quickly to avoid getting door'ed or somthing because im sure i cant get out in time which seems unsafe.
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I'm glad that you posted this. I also use SPD pedals (Shimano M520) and MTB shoes with my road bike. Since I like the quickness of getting in and out of the SPD pedals and the fact that the clips are dual sided, I was thinking of going to Speedplay pedals when these pedals wore out because they also have dual sided clipping. I have read on several posts that they are fast clipping in and out of but require more maintenance as far as keeping them clean. Most of the posts that I have read seem to be all positive about Speedplays and I was wondering if anyone has had any bad experiences with them. Your post is something to keep in mind.
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What kind?? Zeros, or X series??
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Did you install the cleats yourself? If you install them too tight, friction will stop the spring from performing properly. I believe the proper torque is 20 inch pounds. I run speedplay zeros on two bikes with one pair being really beat up and I've never experienced the problems you're having.

Float is not the exclusive source of knee pain. Saddle height and fore/aft position could also be the cause. Maybe consider a fitting before you make anymore modifications.
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Old 08-31-11, 07:02 AM
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Either they are new and need to break in or they were installed incorrectly. My Light Action pedals are extremely easy to clip out.
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Old 08-31-11, 07:24 AM
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I think you need to re-think your foot position when unclipping. If you are unclipping one foot only (stoplight), I would think that foot should be at the bottom of the stroke.

The foot that remains clipped in needs to be at the top of the stroke when you start moving again, which it would already be if you unclip the lower foot.

Also, did you spray any teflon dry lube on the cleat spring before using? That helps a lot, and they also get easier after some use.
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Originally Posted by thump55 View Post
I think you need to re-think your foot position when unclipping. If you are unclipping one foot only (stoplight), I would think that foot should be at the bottom of the stroke.

The foot that remains clipped in needs to be at the top of the stroke when you start moving again, which it would already be if you unclip the lower foot.
Although I agree with the second part of this, I too have my weighted foot at 6 when coming to a stop. Anywhere else and your foot will fall to 6 when you unclip one foot and get off the saddle. If you're coming to a stop, 1/2 second to reposition that foot to the top of the stroke while your other foot is firmly on the ground is no problem.

To the OP, I second checking the cleats. Speedplays were the easiest pedals to get out of that I've ever tried.
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Just got set and i like them however i find it nearly impossible to get out of . I typically get out of my pedals while my right is at 6 O'Clock bearing my weight and the left is at 12 O'Clock. I unclip the left and put my foot down. With these my ankle cannot turn far enough in that position to allow me out.
Just to clarify, when you say "my ankle cannot turn far enough", do you mean that you turn it a certain amount, and then the pedal jams and resists you, or is it that your ankle joint is literally not mechanically capable of rotating far enough to reach the pedal's release point, even if there were zero resistance?

These are two different problems. The first problem (excessive resistance or jamming) can be solved by the methods mentioned already, such as backing off the mounting bolt torque, waiting for the cleats to break in more, and keeping them clean and lubed. The second problem requires a pedal with an adjustable release point. I believe the Speedplay Zeros have this, but it's been a while since I've used them. Also, Time ATAC MTB pedals allow you to select from two different release points depending on how you install the cleats. These are what I've been using for several years now (was using Zeros before that).
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Old 08-31-11, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by urbanknight View Post
Although I agree with the second part of this, I too have my weighted foot at 6 when coming to a stop. Anywhere else and your foot will fall to 6 when you unclip one foot and get off the saddle. If you're coming to a stop, 1/2 second to reposition that foot to the top of the stroke while your other foot is firmly on the ground is no problem.
I had to just jump back on the bike and make sure, but you are right. I unclip at the top. I do it so often I don't even think about it.

Also, if you have the float wide open, you will have to twist further to get out. If you can reduce the float, it may help them unclip quicker...not "easier", but "sooner".
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Old 08-31-11, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Carbon Unit View Post
Either they are new and need to break in or they were installed incorrectly. My Light Action pedals are extremely easy to clip out.
Same with Zeros. Compared to SPD's, they're definitely firmer, though. YOu just need a bit more decisiveness in un-clipping.

The install does require a bit more care than some pedals. The key is to avoid distorting the cleat by overtightening the screws.
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Old 08-31-11, 08:24 AM
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i think im just discouraged and need to give them more time.

They are the x series.

I agree that if my foot is at the bottom when i unclip my other foot falls. It is more natural to have my weight on the downed pedal and unclip at the top.....and then just place that foot down. If the light turns green or at a stop i just lift my clipped foot and push down and go. Easy. If i unclip at the bottom i find that i have to another 1/2 rev of the cranks to put my foot down which is another 3 - 5 feet forward in an emergency depedning on how fast i might be going. Not sure if that makes sense....

Ive been on my spd pedals for 3 or 4 years....and no problems other than i thought i might enjoy the extra float.

when im foot is at the up position i cant turn my heel out far enough with the large amount of float / disengagement these have. I am litterly about 2mm from being able to do it in this poisition. I really have to fight and or turn the cranks backward to about 10 or 11 and then twist out. It is quite easy here because it gives my ankle a larger range of motion in this position.

Yes i have lubed them....and ill play with the tension on the spring a bit to see if that does anything. I think it is just my ankle not being able to turn that far in this position so this may not help.



I love the pedals and the feel while riding. I would spring for the zeros so i can adjust the float but that is a big price tag.

I do love my shimano R-133L shoes.

I was riding on my rollers last night and found it almost deadly to try and unclip when finished Ive been practicing on them to get the feel of these and they are tricky on the rollers for sure.

I like them and probably need to give them more time but im concerned about safety and getting my foot down if a car gets out in front of me or i need to react quickly.
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I switched from SPDs to Speedplay Zeros a few months ago, and agree that it's not quite as easy to clip out when you first switch. I found that they just took a little breaking in to loosen up. I always clip out left foot first, at the 6 position - putting a little weight on the pedal will help, too. You just have to be conscious of using a decisive movement for awhile, but you'll get used to it quickly.
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i think im just discouraged and need to give them more time.

They are the x series.
I'm on the X-series as well and they do have quite a bit of float. It definitely takes getting used to, but for me it's now totally natural feeling to unclip where at first I really had to focus on twisting far enough to get out with plenty of time before I needed to stop.
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Originally Posted by thump55 View Post
I think you need to re-think your foot position when unclipping. If you are unclipping one foot only (stoplight), I would think that foot should be at the bottom of the stroke.

The foot that remains clipped in needs to be at the top of the stroke when you start moving again, which it would already be if you unclip the lower foot.

Also, did you spray any teflon dry lube on the cleat spring before using? That helps a lot, and they also get easier after some use.

This.

When my speedplays were new, I could not get out of them while my foot was at the top (12:00), because my foot simply would not twist that far. I did a few things:

- Practiced getting out while at the bottom (6:00)

- Lubed the heck out of the cleats (helped getting into the pedals as well)

Then after they'd worn in a bit (or maybe I'd been 'worn in' a bit?) I found I was able to get out at the top of the stroke as well.



I wouldn't switch my speedplays for anything else.
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brand new Speedplay X-series cleats/pedals are a little difficult to get out of. I can get out of mine at almost any pedal position now that they are a little worn, but I generally only try when the crank is at the top
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Old 08-31-11, 05:38 PM
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The LBS instructed me to clip out of my Zeros at the bottom and for me this was easier than the top, at least at first. Now that they're breaking in it's not particularly difficult in any position.
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Just make sure you installed everything correctly. Then practice, I had to practice a bunch. I came from 105 pedals which were easy to get out of. I found clipping in to be hard on my zeros. I got used to it and do not miss my 105s.
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I switched from SPDs to Speedplay Zeros a few months ago, and agree that it's not quite as easy to clip out when you first switch. I found that they just took a little breaking in to loosen up. I always clip out left foot first, at the 6 position - putting a little weight on the pedal will help, too. You just have to be conscious of using a decisive movement for awhile, but you'll get used to it quickly.
Exact same experience. Sit in a doorway and clip in/out 100+ times and they'll loosen up (and you'll get used to them). After that, you'll love them.
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I converted from toe clips to speedplays. Yes, I fell
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The install does require a bit more care than some pedals. The key is to avoid distorting the cleat by overtightening the screws.
This.

And if that doesn't work - might want to try a set of Speedplay zero cleats.

The float can work against you and require more twist to get out. Set the float to Zero and you don't have to rotate however much float ahead of the rotation to get out. Might be a problem for your knees though.

Having said that - I have had a couple of surgeries on my left ankle and have limited rotational motion on that ankle. Soo, right now I'm looking at platforms.
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my ankle cannot turn far enough in that position to allow me out.
Sitting here at kitchen table I'm trying to envision what I do. Seems to me I stand and put all my weight on the 6 oclock pedal and unclip the 12. Being out of the saddle should alow you to use your knee and hip in addition to your ankle to rotate your foot. Here in my kitchen I can pretty much get my one foot 90 degrees to the other when standing and only about 30 while sitting.

Also since the next move involves being out of the saddle to put the newly uncliped foot on the ground, standing prior to unclipping puts me in position to do so.
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This.

And if that doesn't work - might want to try a set of Speedplay zero cleats.

The float can work against you and require more twist to get out. Set the float to Zero and you don't have to rotate however much float ahead of the rotation to get out. Might be a problem for your knees though.

Having said that - I have had a couple of surgeries on my left ankle and have limited rotational motion on that ankle. Soo, right now I'm looking at platforms.
How'd the Speedplays work out for you? Not so good?
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yup..ive got some work to do in getting use to them. I love them other than this small thing that is driving me nuts. IM sure they will get better. More miles .........im sure that will take care of it. I still too leary to ride the rollers with them on. I use my SPD cleats for that and im not talking the spd-r cleats....
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I just went from PD-5700's to Speed Play Zero's. My experience was easier to get clip in to the PD-5700 but a lot tougher to clip out of the PD-5700's over the Speed Plays. If not installed right and if you over tighten the screws (one or two clicks) they will not work. Keeping them clean is a bit tougher but now after 2000 miles you couldn't get me to go back to the Shimano's.
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