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Is This a Racing Bike?

Old 09-03-11, 12:37 PM
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Is This a Racing Bike?

Surprisingly (to me) I got some negative feedback upon the purchase of a Litespeed M1from some folks on Bike Forums. Said this bike was too aggressive. Head tube not tall enough for my intended purposes. That it was a "racing" bike and some riders should just not purchase this bike unless they intend to race. That I picked the wrong bike.

I contend it could be a bike that someone could race, but with it's somewhat relaxed geometry compared to full-out racing machines it's more a sport tourer and rather ideal for someone to climb with up and down rolling hills on 50 mile weekend group rides. When reviewing what they called $2,000 sport touring bicycles, University Tri-Sports referred to them as generally having high head tubes, the Specialized Roubaix Elite Apex the highest at 165mm, the Litespeed M1 close at 160mm in the 55cm size (my size) frames. They said the Litespeed M1 makes some degree of compromise on head tube, but still runs high-ish.They remarked on it's stable riding characteristics. And they were specific in saying: It’s still not a racer- it isn’t intended to be but it also isn’t a mattress. The frame features of the Litespeed strike a nice compromise.

Here is their review: https://university.tri-sports.com/201...000-road-bike/

So I bought it. From Competitive Cyclist. On their web site they say Think of the LitespeedM1/SRAM Rival as a well-mannered race machine. It's quick without being twitchy, stable without being slow. It's a bike you can sling a leg over the first time and find it easy to handle on your maiden voyage. It rides with the smoothness of a traditional road bike without the weight or frumpy componentry.

To me, it's an ideal bike for me. It's not a true racing geometry. It's sporty. It's stable. It's light. It climbs hills well. It comes with great SRAM Rival components at a $1,449 price point. As CC said, it rides like a traditional road bike without the weight. What else do ya want for long-ish weekend rides?

Now, I use toe clips because of some damage to my legs and feet such that I cannot easily twist in and out of pedals. But hey I raced many a race in SoCal back in 70's with toe clips and was always waiting for everybody else at the top of Decker Canyon on my toe-clip equipped Peugeot U-08, and btw everyone told me back then was too heavy to be a racing bike, and who got to the top of Decker Canyon way behind me So much for classifying bikes into niches.

So - is the Litespeed M1 a true racing bike, or more a sport tourer ideally suited for long-ish weekend day riding, climbing hills, and being comfortable doing it? Should I be chastised for keeping steerer tube so high in order to increase comfort (the tube being metal not carbon)? If someone buys this bike for long weekend rides in comfort is that a bad purchase? What do you think?







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Old 09-03-11, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by markwebb View Post

To me, it's an ideal bike for me.
That right there is really the only opinion that matters. Now go ride the piss out of that bike and enjoy it!
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Old 09-03-11, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by markwebb View Post
What do you think?
Why do you care what we think? Ride what is comfortable to you. It looks like you aren't going to race anymore, so who cares what you ride. At least you are out there riding. CC has some great deals on their built up bike specials. Myself? The yellow tape doesn't do anything for me, otherwise it looks like a nice bike.
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Old 09-03-11, 12:51 PM
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Really who gives a crap what naysayers think? Most of em are suffering from undetermined inadequacies in their lives and try to bring down those that are having fun in life. That bike is sweet and if you are comfortable on it that's all that matters.
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Old 09-03-11, 12:57 PM
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+1 to everything said above.

who cares what others think, look at the world around us and you'll quickly realize the majority of people are absolute morons.

dunno anything about the M1, but i do think that looks frigin sexay
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Old 09-03-11, 01:08 PM
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Who cares... if you like it and ride it often and hard that is all that matters. Enjoy it... its a great looking bike.
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Old 09-03-11, 01:13 PM
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It's a good bike for you, that's all that matters.

Stop being hung up on labels like 'race bike.'

If this continues to bother you, seek professional help.
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Old 09-03-11, 01:20 PM
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Going by the set up, it is just right for what you wanted for those 50 mile rides and the geometry is pretty traditional... would be a nice all rounder for some as with a few changes the position could be made more aggressive and my vintage steel racing bike is set up very similarly with just a little more saddle to bar drop.
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From a purely (conventional) aesthetic point of view, a taller headtube wouldn't have needed so many spacers and upward pointing stem, so it would be 'cooler'. But functionally it shouldn't pose any problems as it is, so if you like it that way, and it fits you OK, why bother about others' opinions?
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Old 09-03-11, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mymojo View Post
That right there is really the only opinion that matters. Now go ride the piss out of that bike and enjoy it!
Exactly.
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Old 09-03-11, 01:41 PM
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from a structional standpoint, I'm sure the large amount of spacers is putting more stress on the steerer tube
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Old 09-03-11, 02:05 PM
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It's way too fast-looking. Give it to me.
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Don't worry about what people on BF say about it being a race bike. Most people on BF are of low character, and are largely untrustworthy. They wish to erode your confidence to match theirs. Never believe anything they say. Ever. Complete falsities.
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The never ending yearn for peer validation. Ride the damn thing already.
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I am not trying to be rude but SHUT UP!

Who cares if its a racing bike or not. Why would this be an issue? You can take a relaxed geometry frame and make it aggressive OR you can get a aggressive frame and make it relaxed. With so many combinations/factors it doesnt matter if its racy or not. Ride with what you have because its better than most bikes on the market.

Oh by the way, get a fit. Look at your stacked height of your steered tube and stem. It needs to be cut down or risk taking a breakage of the tube.
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Old 09-03-11, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tylerwal View Post
from a structional standpoint, I'm sure the large amount of spacers is putting more stress on the steerer tube

This. Most forks limit the number of spacers to something like 50mm. That looks like a bit more.
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Old 09-03-11, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by markwebb View Post
Surprisingly (to me) I got some negative feedback upon the purchase of a Litespeed M1from some folks on Bike Forums.
really? you were surprised? how have you racked up over 2000 posts here and not noticed that BF hates everything?
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Old 09-03-11, 07:09 PM
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Jeeez... I've raced, and done well on, much worse bikes. I started out racing the Roubaix you mentioned, for example. Sora, Tiagra, 105, Red, Di2 it's all the same - it ain't gonna slow you down or improve the engine.

Quit looking for validation and go out and ride, the only opinion that matters is yours!
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Old 09-03-11, 07:19 PM
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Dude, why are you still starting threads and carrying on about this? It's a nice bike. It fits you. Now go ride it and please stop posting about your bike purchase. WE KNOW!
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Just what is a "racing bike" anyway? I have two quick handling, light, stiff, short head tube frames, each of which would be fine for a criterium course. My Waterford is their "road racing" or "stage race" frame. I wouldn't want to use it in a criterium, but I can sure picture it being a wonderful frame for a 120 mile point to point stage race. I don't race any of them, and enjoy each of the them. My point is that there is going to be quite a bit of difference between frames and handling from one "racing bike" to another, i.e. criterium frame, stage racing, TT bike, etc. and each frame can be used for a similar style of "recreational" riding. Enjoy what you have, especially if it works well for you!
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I think it's only a race bike when you compete with it.

Otherwise it's just a nice road bike.

I've raced on a nice road bike back in college days. I also rode it to work and school and to the grocery store.
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Our opinions mean absolutely nothing. Ride bike, be happy, repeat.
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OP.....I think you're sincere, but you're also a pic w**** - you got your CC Litespeed for a great deal just a week or two ago and you've already posted pics in several different threads looking for validation/confirmation on how "good" it is. And you can't seem to accept negative criticism or if someone doesn't happen to like your bike. As others have said, who cares. The way it's appears - almost no saddle to bar drop, spacers and stem placement - it's for a more sportive / relaxed fit. If YOu like it, then that's all that matters. But please stop posting pics of your bike already.
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Originally Posted by tylerwal View Post
from a structional standpoint, I'm sure the large amount of spacers is putting more stress on the steerer tube
Please, give us an explanation of this additional stress.
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Old 09-04-11, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Rowan View Post
Please, give us an explanation of this additional stress.
Quite easy really.
The larger the distance to the pivot point, the greater the force.
So what he says is correct: it is "putting more stress"
Whether or not this stress is too much is an entirely different matter.
I think those steerer tubes are more than strong enough

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