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new chain grease - leave it or strip?

Old 09-06-11, 05:15 AM
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new chain grease - leave it or strip?

i use wax lube for my chains.
new chains come from the factory with a very thick non-wax lube.

is it better to strip the factory stuff first or apply the wax lube over it?
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Old 09-06-11, 05:21 AM
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Leave it.

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Strip it off.

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I strip it; it seems to be more of a "grit magnet" than chain oil. Just my observation though.
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Old 09-06-11, 05:46 AM
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new chains always seem to come with some kind of thick, sticky mess. I degrease 'em and add my own pro lube.
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Old 09-06-11, 05:50 AM
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Leave it on, but wipe off any excess first.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
Leave it on, but wipe off any excess first.
This.

The grease installed on a chain leaving the factory is the optimal grease, per specs from the engineers, for the chain design.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
Leave it on, but wipe off any excess first.
i have tried this, thinking that i'd just prefer to leave whatever's inside the chain.
it doesn't "wipe" though. the stuff is too sticky.

i have tried leaving it on completely and adding wax lube - it just gets ultra dirty.

on the last chain, i tried using dish soap, which usually cleans things nicely, and it stayed on.
I might try degreasing for real this time.
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Old 09-06-11, 07:21 AM
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Leave it on until the first rainy ride.
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Leave it on.

Why would you want to remove that excellent lubricant?
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Old 09-06-11, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy Somnifac View Post
Per Mr. Brown:
"Household" oil, such as 3 in 1, is a vegetable oil and is acidic. It tends to gum up. (It's really bad news inside internal hub gears, too...)"

Really? I use it all the time....
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Originally Posted by Inertianinja View Post
i have tried this, thinking that i'd just prefer to leave whatever's inside the chain.
it doesn't "wipe" though. the stuff is too sticky.
i have tried leaving it on completely and adding wax lube - it just gets ultra dirty.

on the last chain, i tried using dish soap, which usually cleans things nicely, and it stayed on.
I might try degreasing for real this time.
Try some thinner on a rag to wipe down the outside of the chain.
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I degrease it and apply my own lube, my chains last a really long time.
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Old 09-06-11, 08:15 AM
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I hate that new chain stuff. Yes, it might be the best lubricant for the first ride, but immediately after that, I actually think it's worse for the chain - it's so thick that any dirt gets sucked right into the chain. It's actually 'adhesive' whereas the regular chain lubes are not. It also looks like total crap. Looks like you've neglected your chain after 3 rides, and if you're on a pricey bike like a Cervelo, it's a real eyesore. I get rid of it ASAP, even if it's the 'best' lubricant. Doesn't matter how lubricated it is if sand pellets are rolling around in the pins.
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Degrease it and apply my own lube that dries and doesn't attract dust and grit. I also reapply lube about every 60 miles or so and wipe down the chain to keep it clean.

I don't buy into the argument that chain makers have some high tech (and seemingly, very secret) lube designed specifically for optimal long term performance. What they're really doing is making sure the chain doesn't rust before you buy it.
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Originally Posted by Jasper Storm View Post
Strip it off.

I have spoken.
Strip it.

I have spoken what Jasper has spoken.
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Originally Posted by hhnngg1 View Post
I hate that new chain stuff. Yes, it might be the best lubricant for the first ride, but immediately after that, I actually think it's worse for the chain - it's so thick that any dirt gets sucked right into the chain. It's actually 'adhesive' whereas the regular chain lubes are not. It also looks like total crap. Looks like you've neglected your chain after 3 rides, and if you're on a pricey bike like a Cervelo, it's a real eyesore. I get rid of it ASAP, even if it's the 'best' lubricant. Doesn't matter how lubricated it is if sand pellets are rolling around in the pins.
Grit can only get in the rollers and pins (Where the lubricant is needed) if the lubricant is a thin-viscosity one. If you wipe your chain off, then very little grit should be getting into the rollers.
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Originally Posted by SBRDude View Post
Degrease it and apply my own lube that dries and doesn't attract dust and grit. I also reapply lube about every 60 miles or so and wipe down the chain to keep it clean.

I don't buy into the argument that chain makers have some high tech (and seemingly, very secret) lube designed specifically for optimal long term performance. What they're really doing is making sure the chain doesn't rust before you buy it.
It's not secret, and it's not especially high-tech. It is the one that is best for the design, however. I've actually found the spec for the grease used at the factory at one point.

And, a chain that is dry, and packed with a dessicant pouch wont rust, even without grease.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
Try some thinner on a rag to wipe down the outside of the chain.
This, or use a small amount of Simple Green on a rag, making sure to wipe just the outside of the plates. This'll get rid of the gunk on the unnecessary areas (the outside surface of the side plates), while leaving it where it should be (the pins and inside surface of the plates). When it comes time for a full cleaning, Simple Green is great for that, too.
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Originally Posted by SBRDude View Post
Degrease it and apply my own lube that dries and doesn't attract dust and grit. I also reapply lube about every 60 miles or so and wipe down the chain to keep it clean.

I don't buy into the argument that chain makers have some high tech (and seemingly, very secret) lube designed specifically for optimal long term performance. What they're really doing is making sure the chain doesn't rust before you buy it.
it's not that it is secret or special. It is lubed before it gets assembled so the inner pieces get the most lube they ever will at that point.

like others said.. wipe the outside so it's not sticky and you're good to go. use whatever you want after that.
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SRAM factory lube is Gleitmo: http://www.sram.com/sram/mountain/pr...powerchain-890

I think Campy/Shimano/Wippermann use pretty much the same thing, but the most recent KMC chain I bought is using something that seems similar to a normal chain lube.

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Originally Posted by Jakedatc View Post
it's not that it is secret or special. It is lubed before it gets assembled so the inner pieces get the most lube they ever will at that point.

like others said.. wipe the outside so it's not sticky and you're good to go. use whatever you want after that.
I agree. Keep it.
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Originally Posted by SBRDude View Post
I also reapply lube about every 60 miles or so and wipe down the chain to keep it clean.
Isn't it a pain to stop mid ride to clean your chain? I can't imagine taking the time to clean and relube my chain 3-5 times a week.
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I leave it until it starts to look pretty gunky (few hundred miles), then I do a thorough clean and relube.
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